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Second Gear Synchronizer #771433 12/11/06 09:18 PM
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Hey, I've got an 04 Tacoma 4wd regular cab with a manual tranny. She's got 24k miles on it and it seems that I nearly ALWAYS have a rough shift into second, if I'm not careful. It shifts smoothly into second if I take my time and massage it into the box, but if I just shift without thinking, I always get a rough shift. Not really a grind, but it's almost like the synchronizer isn't allowing the smooth transition. Has anyone else had this problem? Do I need to have the dealer have a look at it before the warranty runs out?

Any tips, suggestions are appreciated!!

Thanks!!

Re: Second Gear Synchronizer #771434 12/11/06 11:05 PM
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javven Offline
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If you double-clutch the shift, is it any different? Test this carefully and out of traffic pls smile


Change your oil hot and often.
07 Taco V6 4WD 5-Auto
Re: Second Gear Synchronizer [Re: javven] #771435 12/12/06 02:42 PM
Anonymous
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From what I can tell, if I pause when shifting, the shift is smooth. But, if I come straight from 1st to 2nd, the shift is rough. I'll test the double clutch, to see if that makes a difference.

I was told a few months ago to try some synchromesh additive in the tranny. I haven't gotten around to this, but that may be my next step.

Re: Second Gear Synchronizer #771436 12/12/06 04:09 PM
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Mark in AZ Offline
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I was told a few months ago to try some synchromesh additive in the tranny.



The 'stick' guys here have recommended using Redline Gear Lub to help with this. If I remember correctly; Toyota will tell you it's 'normal' <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

Here's a link:
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=7


Wheeling a Stepside Tacoma on 37s
Exploring in a T4R Ltd V8
Re: Second Gear Synchronizer [Re: Mark in AZ] #771437 12/12/06 04:50 PM
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javven Offline
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I just test-drove a 2.7l with a 5-spd manual and didn't have this experience...

It's normal. But only if it happens to you. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />


Change your oil hot and often.
07 Taco V6 4WD 5-Auto
Re: Second Gear Synchronizer [Re: javven] #771438 12/12/06 09:14 PM
Anonymous
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So is this a common phenomenon with the 5 speed trannys? Mine's always done it, and obviously it isn't hurting the transmission, but it doesn't seem like quality performance. If I pay that much for a quality truck, I'd like the tranny to shift smoothly!

Thanks for the tip though.. I'll try the redline additive..

Re: Second Gear Synchronizer #771439 12/12/06 11:11 PM
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azrain Offline
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Redline, Amsoil, etc. synthetic gear lube is supposed to be the hot ticket for Toy manuals.

I changed the lube (dino lube) every 6K in my 98 4Runner and it seemed that the fresh fluid sure made the trans a lot smoother.

Re: Second Gear Synchronizer [Re: azrain] #771440 12/13/06 12:06 AM
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javven Offline
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+1 for doing your own maintenance. I'd hate to have to pay for someone else to do my tranny fluid every 6k <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> esp at Dallas prices (dunno where you are). I think they get $85 / pop plus disposal plus tax most places.


Change your oil hot and often.
07 Taco V6 4WD 5-Auto
Re: Second Gear Synchronizer [Re: javven] #771441 12/13/06 02:43 PM
Anonymous
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Does anyone know what the capacity is for fluid in the manual tranny for an 04 4cyl 4x4?

Thanks!

Re: Second Gear Synchronizer #771442 12/13/06 03:20 PM
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Mark in AZ Offline
Toyota Moderator
There is a link to the Factory Service Manual at the top of this forum <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Exploring in a T4R Ltd V8
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