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912, 919, or 929 #798440 03/20/07 02:41 AM
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Kingrya Offline OP
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Now that i know how to install my new rear OME springs... i have to decide which load rate I need. I HATE how weak, soft and floaty the rear end is on this trooper... I was thinkin the 919's(heavy Duty) but im not sure if itll be enough once i start adding more to the truck. I eventually plan on having a good amount of extra weight on the truck like a roof basket, with all the goodies( highjack, gas and water tanks, tools, etc.), sliders, front and rear bumpers, and so forth so itll eventually have some weight on it meaning i need some stiff springs, but i also dont want the thing to ride like a Hardtail you know?. Also, will each of the three Load Rates offer the same amount of lift?


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: Kingrya] #798441 03/20/07 03:14 AM
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Even the "softest" of those (912) are stiffer than stock...they offer about 1.25" (30mm) lift for a Trooper. One of the two other part #s, forget which, is stiffer than the 912s, and I believe the other is stiffer than stock but with no lift. Matt at Independent4x can help you sort them out.

I have had 912s on both my Troopers and love them, though I never have loaded my Troops the way you are planning.


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: BigSwede] #798442 03/20/07 03:17 AM
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I have 919 on my 92 trooper and love them good soft ride but rugged enough to handle hard hits.


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: 94rodeo94trooper] #798443 03/20/07 04:18 AM
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Yea, i think im gonna end up with the 919's how much did they raise yours?


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: Kingrya] #798444 03/20/07 11:35 AM
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they raised it about 2 1/2 inches enough to fit 33's under it little rubs when fully compressed.

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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: 94rodeo94trooper] #798445 03/21/07 12:30 AM
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do the stock shocks sllow enough room to support these springs for on-road driving or do they need to be replaced as soon as the springs are?? kindof a dum question but...


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: Kingrya] #798446 03/21/07 03:07 AM
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replace shocks they will keep to much tension on springs. You can pick up a set from advanced or autozone I got 5000 series both for under a 100 dollars rancho's.


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: 94rodeo94trooper] #798447 03/21/07 06:01 AM
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replace shocks they will keep to much tension on springs.

Huh? Shocks don't apply "tension" at all, except for a little from the gas pressure inside. They dampen movement.

You can gain a little suspension travel by getting longer shocks, especially on the back axle, but you would only see the benefit of that off-road. Really, a t-bar crank and taller coils don't change the suspension travel at all, they just adjust the resting height upward in the same travel range. So you can use stock shock sizes just fine.

It is worth noting that OME makes excellent shocks that are a little longer than stock, and are designed specifically to work with the OME coils. They aren't cheap, but are probably the best shocks I have ever had, and are very rugged.


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: BigSwede] #798448 03/21/07 06:25 AM
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Kingrya Offline OP
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will raising the rear end not extend the rear shocks? causing them essentally(sp) to have less drop/flex than they could when needed? I do intend to use the truck off road as it sould be, but at the same time i want to know if the stock shocks are going to be maxxed out with the new springs seeing as they are now further extended than they once were... I guess i dont know how much extension/flex room the stock shocks have in them...


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Re: 912, 919, or 929 [Re: Kingrya] #798449 03/22/07 04:51 AM
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will raising the rear end not extend the rear shocks? causing them essentally(sp) to have less drop/flex than they could when needed? I do intend to use the truck off road as it sould be, but at the same time i want to know if the stock shocks are going to be maxxed out with the new springs seeing as they are now further extended than they once were... I guess i dont know how much extension/flex room the stock shocks have in them...

2nd gen Troopers have a lot of travel in the rear. Moving your ride height a couple of inches higher isn't going to hamper your axle droop materially.

You have to be a little careful messing with shock length...my Trooper is a dedicated trail rig. I installed rear shocks 2" longer and my OME 912 coils started falling out upon extreme axle travel. Adding 2" coil spacers fixed that (I was planning on doing that anyway).

Also, keep in mind that longer shocks also have a longer compressed length as well as longer extended length. You don't want to bottom out the shocks on compression. Though, to my knowledge I haven't bottomed out mine at 2" longer, probably because with the setup I have the spring will fully compress before the shock will.


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