Extreme Terrain
4x4Wire Trail Talk Forums: Jeep, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Pajero, Isuzu, Kia, 4WD, 4x4, SUV, Off-Road and OutdoorWire Forums


Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Brake booster testing... #801110 03/29/07 12:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 120
9
93yj Offline OP
Wheeler
Is anyone familiar with how to diagnose a bad power brake booster? I ran across a site with someone who had a rough idle on his 2.5l...he said that it took FOREVER to find (as is my case!!!) and turned out to be his brake booster. His brakes became weak, replaced the booster which also fixed his idle problem. I, too, have noticed that my brakes have felt spongy and weak for some time now, but I'm not sure how to test the booster. Is this something I can test with propane?


Oh, I ran my codes today (KOEO which I pull every month or so) and I'm getting a #23...MAT or manifold air temp. sensor. I'm wondering if this could cause a lumpy idle. The local parts stores (Advance and AutoZone) don't carry it for some reason. It looks just like a coolant temp sensor.

Re: Brake booster testing... [Re: 93yj] #801111 03/29/07 01:04 AM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,768
BigJim Offline
Web Wheeler
Quote
Is anyone familiar with how to diagnose a bad power brake booster? I ran across a site with someone who had a rough idle on his 2.5l...he said that it took FOREVER to find (as is my case!!!) and turned out to be his brake booster. His brakes became weak, replaced the booster which also fixed his idle problem. I, too, have noticed that my brakes have felt spongy and weak for some time now, but I'm not sure how to test the booster. Is this something I can test with propane?


Oh, I ran my codes today (KOEO which I pull every month or so) and I'm getting a #23...MAT or manifold air temp. sensor. I'm wondering if this could cause a lumpy idle. The local parts stores (Advance and AutoZone) don't carry it for some reason. It looks just like a coolant temp sensor.



The mat is a temp switch.. When closed it tells the computer the engine is warm enough to go from the rich (startup) mode to the lean (run mode).

If you think the booster is sucking vacuume.. disconnect and plug the vac line to see if the idle improves.
Big JIm <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


professional bovine relocation specialist
Re: Brake booster testing... [Re: BigJim] #801112 03/29/07 01:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 120
9
93yj Offline OP
Wheeler
Jim, thanks for the reply... just plugged her and no difference so I'm guessing she's good.


You know, I was playing with the throttle today (manually) and I noticed that if I rev the motor and hold it, say around 2500, it'll hold the rev steady for maybe 2 seconds and then start to bog a little. If the MAT sensor was bad and the computer was thinking it was in warm-up mode (running rich), could this not cause the little 2.5 to bog since too much fuel would be dumped?

If I stomp on the throttle I also get the same type of bog/stumble. Man, I tell ya...as SOON as I finish school and land a job I'm buying a vehicle with a WARRANTY!!! I'll prolly still keep the Heep, as long as I can convince the wife. She HATES HATES HATES the Jeep!!!!!!!!! Just Empty Every Pocket!!!
I would also think I'd get a code specifically for "rich condition" but that's not the case. Hmm...

Re: Brake booster testing... [Re: 93yj] #801113 03/29/07 06:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 278
C
cjensen Offline
Mudrunner
jmho...
I think I would start by replacing and / or repairing the item in question (MAT/P <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />)....

C.

Re: Brake booster testing... [Re: cjensen] #801114 03/30/07 05:59 AM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 534
R
RockJock Offline
Rock Warrior
Take a look at your plugs, wires, rotor and cap. Look for any rust or corrosion. How long has it been since you replaced any of these? May be do. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Moderated by  4x4Wire 







4x4Wire Social:

| 4x4Wire on FaceBook |


OutdoorWire, 4x4Wire, JeepWire, TrailTalk, MUIRNet-News, and 4x4Voice are all trademarks and publications of OutdoorWire, Inc. and MUIRNet Consulting.
Copyright (c) 1999-2019 OutdoorWire, Inc and MUIRNet Consulting - All Rights Reserved, no part of this publication may be reproduced in any form without express written permission
You may link freely to this site, but no further use is allowed without the express written permission of the owner of this material.
All corporate trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 7.4.33 Page Time: 0.009s Queries: 15 (0.006s) Memory: 0.6053 MB (Peak: 0.6712 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2026-07-13 14:31:14 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS