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 V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
#803676
04/08/07 04:51 PM
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Joined: May 2006
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Has anyone done a 302 ford conversion?
I plan on doing it.
I have a 1994 Mustang 5.0 H/O engine-carberated
I have a C-6 trans and a np 208 transfer case out of a Bronco.
Any suggestions for fit and function?
1990 Montero LWB V6 5-SP Locked Rear/33/12.50 Kumho KL-71 Mud Terrains/3" body lift,bars/springs/poly/shocks/custom skids/lots of lights/snorkle/etc......
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 Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: fleetbob1]
#803677
04/08/07 05:25 PM
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 220
Wheeler
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There's about 25" from radiator support to firewall which would be a close fit for a 302. At least the dizzy is in the front. Novak makes universal motor mounts to put your motor into CJ's that should work if you cut off the stock mounts on the monty frame. I'd get out the hammer to the firewall when the stock motor is out to move that as far back as possible. The main problem and probable project killer is that most Fords use a passenger drop TC. It would be easier to use 700R and TC out of an S10 blazer and adapt the 302 to that than try to get a C6 to fit a driver's drop TC. Just my 0.02. I have not ever seen a Ford/ Mitsu swap and there's probably a good reason for that.
83 mitsu flat bed 2.6l weber, 88 auto tranny, 2" body lift, 4.625 LSD, 235/85-16E mudders (33 x 9.50).
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: whitelespaul]
#803678
04/08/07 05:45 PM
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 53
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I will have to do more research and measurements before i start
The transfer case position may be a problem I will research it further
The jeep 208 transfer case can be used but will need to adapt to the ford trans.
I may go to an atlas case
My rig still works good with the 3.0 and 5 speed trans
(although the rear output seal leaks due to excessive play between the driveshaft and the rear output shaft)
I will need to replace the output shaft and the rear extension housing to fix this.
But the case works well, not noisey, just leaks
This is why I am consedering the swap
I have a fully equiped shop
and the parts to do it
1990 Montero LWB V6 5-SP Locked Rear/33/12.50 Kumho KL-71 Mud Terrains/3" body lift,bars/springs/poly/shocks/custom skids/lots of lights/snorkle/etc......
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: fleetbob1]
#803679
04/08/07 06:56 PM
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Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,079
Roll Me Over
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why not use a EB dana 20 they are cheap and have a driver side drop gear to gear aswell and low range gears down to 4.86 are avalible for it.
89 2 dr turbo diesel
89/88 "Backwoods sas"
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: whitelespaul]
#803680
04/09/07 01:38 AM
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Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,272
Roll Me Over
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There's about 25" from radiator support to firewall which would be a close fit for a 302. At least the dizzy is in the front. Novak makes universal motor mounts to put your motor into CJ's that should work if you cut off the stock mounts on the monty frame. I'd get out the hammer to the firewall when the stock motor is out to move that as far back as possible. The main problem and probable project killer is that most Fords use a passenger drop TC. It would be easier to use 700R and TC out of an S10 blazer and adapt the 302 to that than try to get a C6 to fit a driver's drop TC. Just my 0.02. I have not ever seen a Ford/ Mitsu swap and there's probably a good reason for that. The D44 I'm putting in my project is from a Ford. In fact, the 70s Ford axles are the most plentiful Driver Drop solid axles out there (that I've found, anyway), so there are options for a Ford drive train. 70s F-250s and Early model Broncos all used D-drop drivelines. Look around a little before you sell yourself short. Just because it isn't the popular way to do something doesn't mean it can't be done. I won't elaborate because the cat in the bag is still kickin', but Ford stuff is on my mind for my Monty as well... Good luck.
73 -Jon KJ6GVM As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter Grampa's Trooper 1974 FJ40 1987 FJ60
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: Oyaji_Jon]
#803681
04/09/07 04:51 AM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,741
Body Damage is Cool
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that is exactly what i have been wanting to do.
87 dodge power ram 50,35" tires,5 1/2" total lift,4.6 gears,lockers front and rear,Rancho RS5000's,custom front bumper,custom rock sliders,cct extended diff breathers,75 amp alt(40 amp stock),thorely header,K&N,wheeled hard...
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: powerRam50]
#803682
04/09/07 08:41 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,458
Trail Leader
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[V8 Rumble at idle] I almost bought a 1984 Ranger with a service body, thinking of a 302 and some 'loud' mufflers. Then I woke up and thought the money would be well spent on my Raider instead. I haven't seen a passenger side drop Ford, with exceptions of 50's conversions (F1 and F250) and newer commercial conversions (F450 +). 302 + electric fans and shorty water pump might work out... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
1987 Raider - Roxy
1988 Mighty Max 2.6L Turbo - Pearl
1997 Mountaineer V8 - Freddy
2000 Excursion V10 - Freya
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: fleetbob1]
#803683
04/09/07 10:18 AM
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Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 44
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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I don't know the length of Ford 302, but I was able to fit 6.0 Chevy (4 inch longer than orig 4cyl) into Raider. I had to move radiators forward and cut the floor to fit bellhousing, tranny, t-case and exhaust, but I didn't hammer the firewall. I guess Ford 302 dimensions wouldn't be a problem. http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showf...&o=&fpart=1&vc=1Another person, who have done a V8 swap in this forum is Baldy Good luck, it's a lot of work, but the result is definitely worth it.
Raider 6.0 V8 386hp, 397ft lb, 3?exhaust, Megasquirt ECU, EDIS ignition, Innovate LC-1 WB Lambda, NV4500, NP241 with JB conversions ?super short? SYE kit
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: 777]
#803684
04/09/07 12:16 PM
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Joined: May 2006
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I'm taking the measurements today.
The NP 208 from a 80's ford bronco with a C6 tranny is what i'm going to use, it does have a drivers side drop.
I'm just a little concerned about where the engine will sit under the hood. The engine, mounts and electrics are from a 1984 Mustang GT H/O that I have at my shop with no title.
I realy do not want to modify the firewall.
But I have A 3" body lift already so it may not be a problem.
1990 Montero LWB V6 5-SP Locked Rear/33/12.50 Kumho KL-71 Mud Terrains/3" body lift,bars/springs/poly/shocks/custom skids/lots of lights/snorkle/etc......
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Re: V 8 conversion (Ford) 5.0
[Re: lordtrunks]
#803685
04/09/07 12:26 PM
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 53
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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what is a EB dana 20 and what did it come out of?
1990 Montero LWB V6 5-SP Locked Rear/33/12.50 Kumho KL-71 Mud Terrains/3" body lift,bars/springs/poly/shocks/custom skids/lots of lights/snorkle/etc......
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