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Werid alignment #804604 04/12/07 05:11 AM
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T100Eric Offline OP
Need a Spot
I went wheeling a couple of day ago, and at the end of the day i noticed that my alignment got really messed up from the day, is the a normal thing that happens? The alignment went from some what normal on the way there to being really toed in and having alot of negative camber. Also the torsion bars seemed have given the truck a little more lifft at the end of the day. So I have a few questions, does anyone have a good explanation on how to do an alignment myself, I dont really understand the directions on the 4 crawler site. And last what way do you turn the torsion bar bolts to get lift and what way to lossen them?

Sorry for all the questions I just want to figure all of this out.

-Eric


1996 T-100 SR5 4x4, BJ Spacer, Deaver AAL, Aisin manual hubs
Re: Werid alignment [Re: T100Eric] #804605 04/12/07 12:20 PM
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foxtrapper Offline
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Sounds like you bent the suspension, not merely knocked it out of adjustment.


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Re: Werid alignment [Re: foxtrapper] #804606 04/12/07 03:08 PM
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ErikB Offline
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Most likely you bent your idler arm up. Look at the rubber seal at the frame end and you can usually see that the rear side is compressed while the other side has a gap. You may also see that the idler has been pushed up and rubbing the frame. The bent up idler causes the toe-in, and too much toe-in causes the suspension to lift as you drive forward (as well as wear the outside of the tires pretty badly). It will do the opposite when you back up.

The idler arm is pretty much the weakest link in the Toy IFS. I would seriously consider upgrading to the Total Chaos idler arm and you shouldn't have to worry about it any more. Here is a link to a little writeup I did on it that went pretty much unoticed here in the T100 forum:
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=984774

The apparent camber change may only be a side effect of the toe problem. Its usually pretty tough to mess up camber and caster unless you have a lift kit that has loose brackets or something. Back up to drop the suspension back down and see if the camber looks better.

In the past, as a TEMPORARY fix, I've used a large pry bar or pipe to wedge between the frame and idler to bend it back down. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

Also, its fairly difficult to do your own alignment with IFS. I've done it after installing lift kits to get things sort of close, but "sort of close" is about the best I could do. I did my straight axle myself and its never had any alignment or tire wear issues though.


'97 4Runner, '06 F350, '86 4Runner, '05 WR450
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Re: Werid alignment [Re: ErikB] #804607 04/13/07 04:51 AM
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T100Eric Offline OP
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Well I took it to a shop today for an alignment but then they started and said the the tierod ends needed to be replaced and the the adjusting sleeve wouldnt even move, just another thing to fix.


1996 T-100 SR5 4x4, BJ Spacer, Deaver AAL, Aisin manual hubs
Re: Werid alignment [Re: T100Eric] #804608 04/13/07 06:35 AM
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4xGeek Offline
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Did you not get an alignment after your bj spacers? Sounds like you didn't if you're just noticing the TRE's are frozen. Your suspension finally 'settled'... \---/ That's what it will look like without an alignment. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


4xGeek (Chris)
'97 T-100 4wd sr5-suto, 3" BL, 1.5" BJ spacers, 35" ProComp AT's, 4.88's, Bilsteins x 6, etc...

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Re: Werid alignment [Re: 4xGeek] #804609 04/13/07 08:17 PM
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T100Eric Offline OP
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Yea I didnt because it looked fine, I guess flexing the suspension while wheeling did finally make it settle.


1996 T-100 SR5 4x4, BJ Spacer, Deaver AAL, Aisin manual hubs

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