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89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. #807495 04/23/07 04:54 PM
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higgins Offline OP
Need a Spot
I bought the raider from my dad.It runs about 20 minutes than shuts off.It will crank over but no run.My dad has put in new electronic fuel pump in tank,new distrubtor and cap,wires,complete tune up. plus new coil.When it dies it wont even fire with starting fluid.Any ideas would be great.


1989 Dodge Raider 2 Door 3.0 4 speed Automatic
Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: higgins] #807496 04/23/07 05:01 PM
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CapnCrunch Offline
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Tank return line plugged?

You said your dad was working in the tank. I wonder if the tank return line got pinched, plugged, or something like that.

Run it til it dies, then remove your tank filler cap. Is there a suction when it's removed?


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Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: higgins] #807497 04/23/07 09:24 PM
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FrankR Offline
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If you aren't sure when the fuel filter was last replaced, replace it now. The next time it dies, immediately check the coil. Then check the ignition switch.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: FrankR] #807498 04/23/07 10:30 PM
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fasteddy Offline
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And the coolant temp sensor for the ecu...


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Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: fasteddy] #807499 04/25/07 01:51 PM
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dadrab Offline
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I'm betting bad coil. Mine exhibited the same symptoms when the Accel died an early death. One new coil later, and all was well.


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Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: dadrab] #807500 04/25/07 11:52 PM
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pmontero Offline
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After checking the stuff above, check the little black transistor attached to the coil bracket if it's a V6. Sometimes cleaning the connection works; other times you have to replace it. They become heat sensitive and shut off the spark when hot. Once they cool down they work.

Pmontero


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Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: higgins] #807501 04/26/07 12:18 AM
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LRJ4x4 Offline
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Ask your dad about the warranty <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

We need more info is it a 2.6 or 3.0?


98 Montero with cold weather package
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Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: LRJ4x4] #807502 05/28/07 06:00 AM
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higgins Offline OP
Need a Spot
Its a 3.0.Im sorry took so long to get back to you. This site rocks as i figure out how to use site.The starter went out replaced it. It cranks over now. But sometimes starts runs very short time and dies.Sometimes it turns over hard.Sometimes it whirls over like no spark.Ive cleaned ground cable and body ground.I just ordered a new engine electrical control relay for it. Because it seems to stick for long time and then clicks.I wish id checked this again sooner. Some great ideas some ive tried some i will be doing in the morning.I have been doing my homework when theres time. Junkyards in this area dont have no 89 raiders with 3.0.Ive been looking for that litle blackbox on coil bracket with no luck.One dealer said parts cant be ordered.But did find dealer says can order that little blackbox on coil if i order factory coil comes on the bracket 259.00.WOW Still cool vehicle. Thanks for more ideas.Try them and see let you know.


1989 Dodge Raider 2 Door 3.0 4 speed Automatic
Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: higgins] #807503 05/28/07 04:39 PM
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1009 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Quote
ve been looking for that little black box on coil bracket with no luck.One dealer said parts cant be ordered.But did find dealer says can order that little blackbox on coil if i order factory coil comes on the bracket 259.00.


I just picked up one from the dealer they had it in stock $215. The told me you have to buy the "black box" (aka igniter) with the the coil as they are "calibrated" ???? I am having the same problem as you.. Frank gave me a laundry list and it worked for a while but now I am back to the stalling problem.
Here is Franks list of things to check.
1) Check all vacuum lines to make sure they're not cracked and in place where they should be.
2) Check the EGR system operation.
3) Check the vacuum switch on the front of the intake manifold near the thermostat - it has 2 vacuum hoses and often is cracked - even though it looks ok.
4) Check the rotor and distributor cap.
5) Check ignition timing.
6) Check the o2 sensor (it's about time to replace it).
7) Clean the ISC and throttle body.
8) Check the resistance values on the IAC, TPS and AFM.
9) Put in a bottle of fuel injector cleaner and as a last resort, send the injectors out for cleaning.
10)Another last resort would be to replace the fuel pump.

Good luck if you find a solution please let me know.
Terry


89 Dodge Raider V6 Auto Black n Gold
Re: 89 raider stalls after running about 20 minutes wont start back up for couple hours. [Re: higgins] #807504 05/28/07 04:44 PM
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generation_one Offline
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.I just ordered a new engine electrical control relay for it. Because it seems to stick for long time and then clicks..


that sounds like normal operation.


1989 5 door montero 3.0 auto
stock original Japanese
about 200k miles






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