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Propane good? bad?
#829922
08/10/07 12:01 AM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 45
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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I am running a stock 22r with a webber and i have saved enough money to do a propane conversion from gotpropane.com. I was woundering if any one has done this conversion or other convesions and could tell me the pros & conns of doing so.
Last edited by chevota9684; 08/10/07 12:03 AM.
84 TOY P/U 35"Boggers 5"SUSPENTION 2"SHACKEL LIFT TRU-TRAC FRONT DETROIT REAR 5.29 GEARS COSTOM FABED BUMPERS & SLIDERS, MARLIN 4:70:1 CRAWLER T-CASE
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: TOY84OTA]
#829923
08/10/07 11:50 AM
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Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,262
Body Damage is Cool
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Refueling. I looked into it myself. There's one refueling station in my state. That's not exactly convenient. Yes, my cars tank could be refilled by just about any facility that can recharge grill tanks. But they can't/won't/don't charge the road tax, so they can't do it legally. They also can't get my vehicle up on their scales for weight.
Emissions. Propane fueled vehicles are *not* exempted from emissions inspections like CNG vehicles are. So you technically have to have all your emissions stuff still hooked up. This creates all kinds of conflicts and pointlessness. If you just keep a low profile, you'll pass the sniff test with flying colors. But if you push the issue, you create tremendous headaches for yourself.
Inability to refuel was the reason I abandoned the project.
'97 T-100 SR5 '86 Toyota's, the variety pack (all gone)
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: foxtrapper]
#829924
08/10/07 04:38 PM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,153
Web Wheeler
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When I ran propane in an old Landcruiser, I invested in a propane motor fuel directory, at the time there was a western and eastern US volume. There are usually quite a few stations (or there were at that time - late '80s, early '90s), but the tricky part is most were 8-5 M-F type of places. So for weekend trips, you had to plan things out. I ran 50 gallons of tanks, so could go ~500 miles between fillups.My dad has run his '72 Chevy pickup on propane since '74 and he runs a 100 gal. tank and had never had problems finding fuel, even on cross-country trips. Back east one time he did have some issues with certain tunnels he could not use. BTW, that truck still has the original engine and aside from one broken timing chain, it is all original w/ maybe 700K miles on it by now (that is the biggest benefit of LPG, it burns very clean).
Smog restritions is what ended up causing me to get rid of my propane powered vehicle in CA. They dropped the LPG exemption back in the early '90s (only diesel and electric are exempt now) and made it nearly impossible to get a non-factory equipped vehicle smogged, that I gave up and sold it out of state. Funny thing is that LPG burns much cleaner than gasoline, so passing the sniffer test was easy, the visual is where I failed.
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: 4Crawler]
#829925
08/11/07 02:57 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 138
Wheeler
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My dad has run his '72 Chevy pickup on propane since '74 and he runs a 100 gal. tank and had never had problems finding fuel, even on cross-country trips. I wasn't aware they had propane powered vehicles back in the mid seventies. I thought came out in the mid eighties. The things you learn hey. Down here in OZ a vast majority of servos have LPG on tap. At the moment it runs at less than half the price of unleaded fuel. It does burn very clean, I've recently had the head of my ford fairlane thats on dedicated propane. After just over 450k KMS the pistons and cylinders look like new. Only problem is upper cylinder lubrication. Some people swear on propane, some swear at it... just personal experience i guess.
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: TOY84OTA]
#829926
08/11/07 03:25 AM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 45
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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thanx for the advice i am trying to get the kit because my carb quits at angles and i heard the kit from got propane was easy to install and worked great
84 TOY P/U 35"Boggers 5"SUSPENTION 2"SHACKEL LIFT TRU-TRAC FRONT DETROIT REAR 5.29 GEARS COSTOM FABED BUMPERS & SLIDERS, MARLIN 4:70:1 CRAWLER T-CASE
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: TOY84OTA]
#829927
08/11/07 03:44 AM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,153
Web Wheeler
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I know the driveability on my old carbed Landcruiser (F engine) was a million times better on propane. With the carb, I had to warm that thing up driving back streets before I could think of trying to get on an express road or freeway. It used to kick and sputter if you got on the gas too hard. With propane, it was super smooth hot or cold and angle won't matter. Also, the engine ran very smooth, I could literally adjust the idle speed clear down to 0 RPM. I think I set it to idle around 400 to keep some oil pressure, but it would idle at 100 or below with no issues.
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: 4Crawler]
#829928
08/11/07 03:53 AM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 45
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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thats what im looking for dose any one know of any other good kits besides the one i have found
84 TOY P/U 35"Boggers 5"SUSPENTION 2"SHACKEL LIFT TRU-TRAC FRONT DETROIT REAR 5.29 GEARS COSTOM FABED BUMPERS & SLIDERS, MARLIN 4:70:1 CRAWLER T-CASE
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: TOY84OTA]
#829929
08/11/07 03:59 AM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,153
Web Wheeler
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I had mine done at a propane distributor shop, they did a full turn key install using Impco parts. It ran about $1500 w/ the 20+30 gallon tanks.
Seems like the GotPropane kit is one that is all ready to bolt-on for the 22R, so probably the best bet.
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: rustylux]
#829930
10/04/07 08:20 PM
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Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 409
Mudrunner
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I wasn't aware they had propane powered vehicles back in the mid seventies. I thought came out in the mid eighties. The things you learn hey. John Deere made propane powered tractors in the 50's. - Bryan
-- Bryan
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Re: Propane good? bad?
[Re: 4Crawler]
#829931
10/05/07 01:34 AM
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Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 369
Mudrunner
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I had mine done at a propane distributor shop, they did a full turn key install using Impco parts. It ran about $1500 w/ the 20+30 gallon tanks.
Seems like the GotPropane kit is one that is all ready to bolt-on for the 22R, so probably the best bet. i second that cary is a awersome guy who put together a amazing kit, hes also always there to help when you need it
toyotas look good with body damage
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