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22re to carb in my 91 #833766 09/03/07 05:00 PM
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Bigbadtoy Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
ok so im rebuilding the motor and i want to do away with the fuel injection and im wondering whats all involved in this swap? does the 22r intake bolt up to the re head? also i should be able to get rid of half the wires and ***** under the hood to right any info on the swap would be more than helpful


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: Bigbadtoy] #833767 09/03/07 08:03 PM
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stock87 Offline
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Not worth it, IMO (and I'm a carb guy). For the amount of work involved AND you'll be losing all the upsides to EFI. You'll wind up with less power, less economy, more stuff to screw up adjustment wise, and less ability to run the engine on steep angles.

That said, yes the intake will bolt right up. Only 4 wires to the carb:
1 Choke heater (off terminal L on alternator)
2 Idle fuel cut solenoid +
3 Idle fuel cut solenoid -
4 Outer vent control valve +

You'll need to change over to the carb coil/ignitor too I think.


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: stock87] #833768 09/04/07 02:45 AM
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1986xtracab Offline
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I think you may have to change the fuel pump and tank as well.


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: 1986xtracab] #833769 09/04/07 03:38 AM
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kewlynx Offline
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Yes on the ignition systems and yes on the fuel stuff (pressure delivery is significantly lower)

I think this is the first time I've heard of someone wanting to convert back over to carb, aside from the gent I'm getting parts from, but he wants to simply keep his carb.

If still insistent, make sure you get the carb for the TRUCK, not the Celica, if going with an Aisin.


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: kewlynx] #833770 09/04/07 05:18 AM
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yotabob88 Offline
Need a Spot
I don't have the ignition electronics but I have the intake, carb, all emission part( I wouldn't recommend unless you have to have them), and the distributor I pulled off of an engine I had in my 87. the carb is new, the intake needs cleaned, the distributor and fuel pump and everthing all work the truck ran I just decided to tear it apart and then I had to get rid of it(I moved) but I have all these parts for maybe $320(negotiable)if ur interested
Id recommed going with the MSD SCI, or 6al ignition (or similar product) with a carb.


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: yotabob88] #833771 09/04/07 06:07 AM
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dcg9381 Offline
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Stock intake, carb, and distributor for $320? Yikes... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

Keep the EFI if at all possible.
If converting to carb, you'll need to energize the fuel pump manually, step down the pressure.. Add a manifold, carb, and throttle cable.
You'll need to redo the ignition system for mechanical / vacuum advance.

It's much easier to get the EFI right, IMHO.


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: dcg9381] #833772 09/04/07 06:19 PM
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yotabob88 Offline
Need a Spot
Is $320 too much ? what would be reasonable for these parts I was looking at this stuck at LCengineering and its much more for all of that(I know its brand new) but I figured all this stuff together should be worth that but, I don't look for carb parts all that much. I want EFI!!


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: kewlynx] #833773 09/04/07 08:49 PM
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cktoy Offline
Mudrunner
yep two diferent trucks.carb truck runs ,efi truck knocks.not worth it to me to swap to efi ,but if the efi truck ran I certainly would not put the carb on it.


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Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: yotabob88] #833774 09/05/07 05:18 PM
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Scerb Offline
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Is $320 too much ? what would be reasonable for these parts I was looking at this stuck at LCengineering and its much more for all of that(I know its brand new) but I figured all this stuff together should be worth that but, I don't look for carb parts all that much. I want EFI!!


To a stranger I would sell a carb for $50, intake for $50 fuel pump for $20, dist for $30 and well, thats all you need. So ya, I'd say 320 is a tad high. Thats also in NH where everyone and their grandmother has a toyota carburetor in their shed.

-Scerb

Re: 22re to carb in my 91 [Re: Scerb] #833775 09/06/07 05:45 AM
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yotabob88 Offline
Need a Spot
well in illinios (I'm in college) toyota parts are hard to find and new parts are an arm and leg but I wasn't sure what to sell for say $200 ? for all! I may have some one interested in the whole 22r engine! but I'll see what all they're looking for!


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