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My 1990 4Runner #842323 10/18/07 09:33 PM
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code33 Offline OP
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Approx. 230k original miles on 3VZE motor & tranny. Failed smog a few years ago because of a burnt valve and has been non-op since in the garage.

Open ended question... So what should I do with it?

Thinking new motor... How much is it going to cost?


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Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: code33] #842324 10/18/07 10:06 PM
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Dok Offline
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5vze swap smile Probably doable for <$3k if you get a deal on a motor...


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Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: Dok] #842325 10/18/07 10:10 PM
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code33 Offline OP
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Would be nice but don't want to deal with new exhaust and wiring. Already have $$$ into 3VZE headers.

Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: code33] #842326 10/18/07 11:17 PM
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Staceman Offline
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Replace it with a "good-used"?
This one has only 95K miles.....

You could run it while you take your time rebuilding the old one?

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Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: Staceman] #842327 10/18/07 11:17 PM
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Staceman Offline
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Or..
swap the motor, then sell it, use the cash on something else.


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Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: code33] #842328 10/19/07 12:43 AM
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Snowtoy Offline
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If you plan to keep the Runner, I would pull the block and rebuild it. I would bore the block and consider some head work. This along with the headers, a moderately open exhaust, and a better intake should give you good results. If you do the work yourself it should come in under $2k, about $1500-2k cheaper than doing an engine swap.

This is assuming you have a 5-spd and not an auto. If you have an auto tranny, I would sell the Runner for what you can get and buy a 3rd gen w/the 3.4. You can find them starting at around $4-5k


More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
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Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: Snowtoy] #842329 10/19/07 02:17 PM
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Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: code33] #842330 10/19/07 04:13 PM
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ErikB Offline
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Failed smog a few years ago because of a burnt valve


I would bet that that bottom end is still in pretty good shape. I would probably just rebuild the heads.

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Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: ErikB] #842331 10/19/07 10:03 PM
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jmsdad Offline
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Hi Ken,

Ditto on what ErikB said. Just rebuild the heads with new gaskets/head bolts and you're good to go. I rebuilt the top end on my Dad's 94 3 years ago (~90K miles ago) and it's still going strong. Cost was under $500 IIRC.

Re: My 1990 4Runner [Re: jmsdad] #842332 10/19/07 11:34 PM
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OutlawMike Offline
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If you go the rebuild route, make sure you get new head bolts, do not re-use the old ones.

I rebuilt the top end on my '89 V6 3.0 back in the spring. It had dropped a valve seat on the #6 intake. I had the head shop put in all new exhaust valves, new guides, cut the 11 good seats, and install an oversized seat to replace the one that dropped.

It was $950 with a complete Felpro gasket set for the entire motor, new head bolts included from the head shop, and they tanked/blasted my intake and air plenum. I pulled the motor to replace all the seals while I was in there.

If you do the job, and you are going to keep the rig, you would want to do the following:

timing belt
tensioner
tensioner spring
water pump
thermostat
knock sensor jumper wire
hoses/belts

Possible things to replace:

Knock sensor (under the intake, expensive to replace, but hard to get to later).
idler pulley, if worn and notchy

You could quickly get up to $1200 or so for parts and labor on the simple head rebuild.

Mike

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