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Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
#843683
10/26/07 01:19 AM
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 141
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[ RANT ]
I am really tired of garages.
The local Goodyear garage today refused to align my truck. My steering wheel is almost 180 degrees out. My fault, I forgot to check the wheel when I put the pitman arm on when I replaced my tie rods (by the way it was the rods, got a different brand and they fit well).
So, the guy tells me the wheel is off and he can't adjust for it with the tie rod adjusters. Well I just put brand new tires on it up the road. I don't want to drive the forty-five minutes home on new tread with a bad alignment. All the other garages are booked, and they don't have the time to fix the pitman arm. I tried to explain to the guy that I had just had the arm off, and it took me less then ten minutes to pull it. And considering all it will take to fix the wheel is to pull the arm re-align it and re-attatch, they should have plenty off time before they closed.
Anyway, they guy said they couldn't do it, so I said align it anyway screw the wheel. And I walked up the road. A half hour later I came back still irritated, so I talked to the manager. I tell him the same thing, I just had it off the night before, and had coated it with anti-seize. It should pop right off. So he thumbs his book and says the book says its a 7/10ths of an hour job. And they charge $65 an hour flat rate. So, if the job takes the dude 15 minutes I still get charged nearly $60. I was like WHAT!! Are you kidding me? Fine, what ever, just get it aligned I'll fix the pitman arm myself.
The guy gets an attitude and walks around back and here comes my truck. They, pulled it off the lift, they wouldn't align it. Now remember I told the guy over a half hour ago to align it anyway. This was before I spoke with the manager. So, by all rights it should already be done.
So tonight I fixed the damn thing mayself in under 13 minutes. Thats really worth almost $70 bucks? And why the hell isn't aligning the wheel (even if it includes popping the pitman arm) incuded in an alignment?? So, I have an appointment with a third place on saturday to check the alignment.
Oh yeah, by the way. The other place that did my tires, said it would be done in 2 hours. I walked around for 2 hours and came back. It wasn't even in the damn bay yet. So I kicked around for another fifteen minutes before my truck went in, after that it took almost another hour and fifteen minutes to mount and balance four tires. ???? I can do four tires with a tire lever, a jack, a can of ether, and a breaker bar in less then forty-five minutes. Granted I can't balance them in that amount of time. But I can do everything else without a fancy lift, a tire machine, or air tools.
Garages are a rip off, pure and simple. Lazy, and a rip off.
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: 88D50]
#843684
10/26/07 03:56 AM
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
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Garages are a rip off, pure and simple. Lazy, and a rip off.
Try running one someday. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1 31's..Basically Stock
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: LandRaider]
#843685
10/26/07 04:21 AM
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,892
Web Wheeler
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That's always been my experience as well. Now I know there are honest, dedicated, hard working mechanics out there, and quality run shops as well. I just haven't been able to find one within driving distance of my home. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: stony-man]
#843686
10/26/07 05:44 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,479
Roll Me Over
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you just have your mechanic drive to you huh? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />
Richard E 1989 Montero - Stock-ish 1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap. 1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5 1983 Honda XL600R
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: 88D50]
#843687
10/26/07 06:26 AM
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 119
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Heh, at a junkyard we found a raider pretty good condition and all that and took a few things from it. Basically 2 mirrors, 2 brakelights, and a hose.
The guy wanted 150 bucks for all of that <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> this was on a "50% OFF WEEKEND" thing where everything cost half..meaning that would of actually cost me 300??? Are you joking?!?!
Anyways-my father did some good work in saying he only had one hundred dollars on him and ended up taking it.
Kind of winning against them a bit i guess. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
87 Dodge Raider 2.6l KYB Shocks, 35 BFG Mud Terrains!
3 Inch Body Lift Custom front and rear bumpers Roof Rack Coming soon!
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: StockRaider]
#843688
10/26/07 06:30 AM
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 246
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Well speaking from experience. I was a tech at a mitsubishi dealer ship for 2 years. Flat rate is good and bad but in the end it all = out. I have had jobs that I was able to get done faster than book time and there were jobs where I lost my ass.
92 Galant vr4 11.17at132mph 98 Montero 2.5"lift,33/10.50/15,15x8procomp wheels. trail-gear rock sliders,ARB front bumper,Warn m8000 winch. Piaa lights.
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: Nick_]
#843689
10/26/07 06:30 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,479
Roll Me Over
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I bought a whole intake rear seat mirrors brake caliper and bolt from an 89RaiderV6 for *drumroll* $2
I went to the junkyard where the owner huffs gas for his jeep and trades stuff for a 12 pack. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> So I get back at the other junkyards by taking advantage of those guys. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Richard E 1989 Montero - Stock-ish 1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap. 1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5 1983 Honda XL600R
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: StockRaider]
#843690
10/26/07 07:14 AM
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 709
Rock Warrior
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most of those junkyards make a killing.
I've got a really good shop right by my house but have been to others that have tried to screw me over.
1989 Montero 4dr V6 3.0l
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: 89montero]
#843691
10/27/07 12:36 AM
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 141
OP
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This is still really bugging me so today I decided to see just how long another fixmay have taken.
i pulledmy horn button and low and behold the steering shaft and wheel are not keyed. So I tore the wheel off and put it back on while being timed.
Now you must understand, I had to find my puller, the correct socket, an extension and my little 3/8 breaker bar. All in a very clutterd messy garage (I just changed my rear main last weekend and all my tools are spread to the wind).
It took me a total of 8 minutes. And what really pissed me off was the garage never even bother to offer this fix as an alternative. I bet the flate rate for a steering wheel would have been half what it is for the pitman arm. As I said lazy. They never even checked the book to see if it was a quick possibility. They were too worried about punching out and they had PLENTY of time.
Never again will I go to a Good Year garage.
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Re: Ever felt like you were being taken advantage of ???
[Re: StockRaider]
#843692
10/27/07 07:32 AM
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Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,690
Trail Leader
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you just have your mechanic drive to you huh? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" /> Yeah.. what a dick!
1999 Mitsu Montero - Crappy Weather 1992 Isuzu Pickup - Zombie Apocalypse 2008 Saturn Sky Redline - Nice Weather
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