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Timing Belt Service #861559 01/21/08 04:15 AM
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LAMONTEROGUY Offline OP
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I searched but didn't find. I have 90' LS Monti. I preparing to have the TB service done, since I do not know the last time it was done. On the Montero, is it also recommended to change the water pump when changing the TB and tensioner or just the TB&tensioner? Thanks. Is $350 a fair price to pay to have this done?


Marc
1990 Montero LS
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: LAMONTEROGUY] #861560 01/21/08 04:52 AM
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FrankR Offline
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Change the water pump while you have it apart. Also, if you have the old style crankshaft pulley bolt, replace it with the new style, alomg with the new washer. The revised torque value on the bolt is 134 (+/- 3) ft-lbs, lightly lubed with 30W engine oil on the bolt threads and washer.

$350 is very reasonable for that job.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: FrankR] #861561 01/21/08 05:20 AM
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LAMONTEROGUY Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
thanks!


Marc
1990 Montero LS
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: LAMONTEROGUY] #861562 01/21/08 11:52 PM
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DirtDriver Offline
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Have them replace the idler and tensioner bearings at the same time--won't cost much more than the parts cuz they're already in there and they both probably have a lot of wear.


1990 Monty LS 3.0 A/T LWB. KYB front shocks, OME rears and coils. 33x10.5 BFG Muds. 5.29, 2.85, RD110, RD46. 2 bouncys. Aisins. Monte Disco swaybar disconnects. GenII t-arms, idler arm, UCA's, V45W front brakes. 2in BL.
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: DirtDriver] #861563 02/25/08 09:26 PM
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carlover626 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Also, if you have the old style crankshaft pulley bolt, replace it with the new style, alomg with the new washer. The revised torque value on the bolt is 134 (+/- 3) ft-lbs, lightly lubed with 30W engine oil on the bolt threads and washer

Not trying to hijack a thread here...
Do I need to worry about this revised bolt on my 2002 3.0? Going to be having the TB done in the near future (dealer probably), here is my list:
TB, Water Pump, Idler/tensioner bearings

I have recently been hearing some squeeking from the pulleys while at idle, are the bearings the culprit? Is this work do-able with about $1,000??


2002 Montero Sport 3.0L LS AWD, 130K - Stock
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: carlover626] #861564 02/26/08 06:44 PM
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carlover626 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
So I am calling around and getting estimates...one has quoted a price of $1050.00 to replace "everything behind the cover". Thoughts?

Is this about how much I should be prepared to spend?


2002 Montero Sport 3.0L LS AWD, 130K - Stock
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: carlover626] #861565 02/26/08 08:35 PM
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justice Offline
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For that price, everything behind the cover better include a new long block <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Changing the Water pump and tensioner bearing should add no more than. 1.5 hours to the timing belt job and approx $75 or so more for parts. I wish I got that kind of dough for changing out all the timing belts on my monteros over the years I would have an extra 7K in the bank. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> For that price I would put my tool box in the truck, drive up to LA and change it out for you while you watch and learn.

Last edited by justice; 02/26/08 08:39 PM.

99 Gen 2.5, fixing blown head gasket
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears (SOLD)
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: justice] #861566 02/26/08 09:12 PM
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carlover626 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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For that price, everything behind the cover better include a new long block <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I wish I could laugh too <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

I have been quoted in the $1000.00+ range from the 3 non-dealer shops I have talked to. Dealer prices (called 3 of them as well) are nearly identical to the independant shops <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Anyone near Denver, CO that can tell me of a shop that would charge less than $1000 for the TB, WP, tensioner, cam/crank seals??


2002 Montero Sport 3.0L LS AWD, 130K - Stock
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: carlover626] #861567 02/26/08 09:59 PM
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KrzyDav Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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I learned to do this myself and glad I did. Shops "Have" to charge this much for the time. The parts arn't that expensive , just time.
I've done my sohc so many times I could do in in my sleep. Besides the time unbolting and setting aside the accessories it's not that hard and a good learning experience.
Lots of good free advice on here, too.
I'm no mechanic and this is how I learned the guts of my Montyraider and grew a greater apprieciation for how much more H.D. it is than my past favorite The Toyotas.
Enjoy


dave h.
'89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;; Gen2 LS: frt. brakes, rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes ;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.
Re: Timing Belt Service [Re: carlover626] #861568 02/26/08 11:08 PM
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hazy_daze Offline
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A grand sounds way steep. From Alldata, I'm coming up with about 4.0 hours. At ATL labor rates, that's $500 tops. Factor parts of about $250-300. What gives? I'm not coming anywhere close to a $1k.....

Seriously, if you'd like to do this yourself, let me know. I can put all of the procedures with pictures in an email to you. Heck, I'll even mail you the parts at my cost (NAPA jobber) which is less than what the shops pay.


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
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