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very low idle/stall
#874783
03/12/08 06:36 AM
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My '94 22-RE has developed a problem. I guess its had a very slightly rough idle for a while, but earlier today it was idling around like 500rpms. Then I took it on a light snow trail, beat it gently (I think this is coincidence) and now it will idle at <100rpms for a second, then jump to 500 for a sec, then loop back down to 100. Every now and then it will stall.
I have had a CEL come on and off ever since I've owned it. Ironically I haven't seen it on since this problem started. Last time I pulled codes it was lean idle mixture.. I think.
First thing that comes to mind is 02.. or maybe not.. I have no idea. I think I'll just swap it over to carbinated tomorrow <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Thanks,
Scerb
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: Scerb]
#874784
03/12/08 07:32 AM
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When's the last time you cleaned the MAF and t'body? Also remember to make sure the TPS isn't out of whack.
Original 02 sensor?
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: kewlynx]
#874785
03/13/08 04:48 AM
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I haven't done crap to it, I'm lazy <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> I'm gonna go ahead and replace the 02. I know a lot have people have had good luck with sparkplugs.com, but is an 02 from a good parts store ok? I've heard some bad things.. I just don't wanna wait for shipping from sparkplugs.com.
Also, this problem is only when engine is warmed up, idles fine when cold. Dunno if that isolates anything or not..
-Scerb
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: Scerb]
#874786
03/13/08 05:18 AM
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my vote is for the tps. happened to my coworker's 88.
are you throwing a code yet?
87 22R PU, 2? body lift, 33? BFG muds, 4.88's, F&R Lock-Rights, Rancho Shocks, EB's Street RV Head w/ 268 Cam, LCE Header, 2" to 2 1/4" exhaust, Flowmaster 50 series, Magnaflow high flow cat, complete Herculined SR5 interior, V6 BB, MC, and calipers.
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: 87Toy4x4]
#874787
03/13/08 05:23 AM
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ya, CEL came on on my way home tonight. I'll pull it tomorrow, I'd assume its the lean idle mixture again.. Doesn't the tps not really do anything at idle?? I want a carb <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: Scerb]
#874788
03/13/08 07:47 AM
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Oh yeah it does. It's part of the feedback loop for the ECU. Seems to me there's something about how that loop basically works in the tech articles at www.autoshop101.comTPS- root of all evil. On the 02 sensor, if the box store has a Denso, go for it.
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: kewlynx]
#874789
03/13/08 02:34 PM
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check the connections on the plug for the tps, clean them up a bit while your waiting on your o2 sensor to be shipped to ya.
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: subliminaltrips]
#874790
03/13/08 07:17 PM
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so yes, its code 25 - lean fuel mixture.
I bought a new denso 02... $117, ouch. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> Sparkplugs.com was 90+shipping, but its getting to the point where this is getting hard to drive so I gotta just suckitup and fix it now.
Ya, fix it now.
Go to take old 02 out, nuts rust into pieces, 02 won't come out.
Truck won't idle.
Awesome. Fun. I love Toyotas....
*throws new 02 threw windsheild*
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: Scerb]
#874791
03/14/08 01:36 AM
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have you checked fuel pressure or thought about some trash in your tank? im asking because i had a similar issue and it turned out that i had the line to my charcoal canister disconnected and it was letting moisture get into the tank vent and caused a bunch of rust, the gas i drained out was a nice burnt orange color.... just a thought.....
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Re: very low idle/stall
[Re: Scerb]
#874792
03/14/08 02:52 AM
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did you pb blaster it first and then use an o2 sensor socket?
87 22R PU, 2? body lift, 33? BFG muds, 4.88's, F&R Lock-Rights, Rancho Shocks, EB's Street RV Head w/ 268 Cam, LCE Header, 2" to 2 1/4" exhaust, Flowmaster 50 series, Magnaflow high flow cat, complete Herculined SR5 interior, V6 BB, MC, and calipers.
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