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very low idle/stall #874783 03/12/08 06:36 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
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Scerb Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
My '94 22-RE has developed a problem. I guess its had a very slightly rough idle for a while, but earlier today it was idling around like 500rpms. Then I took it on a light snow trail, beat it gently (I think this is coincidence) and now it will idle at <100rpms for a second, then jump to 500 for a sec, then loop back down to 100. Every now and then it will stall.

I have had a CEL come on and off ever since I've owned it. Ironically I haven't seen it on since this problem started. Last time I pulled codes it was lean idle mixture.. I think.

First thing that comes to mind is 02.. or maybe not.. I have no idea. I think I'll just swap it over to carbinated tomorrow <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks,

Scerb

Re: very low idle/stall [Re: Scerb] #874784 03/12/08 07:32 AM
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kewlynx Offline
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When's the last time you cleaned the MAF and t'body? Also remember to make sure the TPS isn't out of whack.

Original 02 sensor?


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Re: very low idle/stall [Re: kewlynx] #874785 03/13/08 04:48 AM
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Scerb Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
I haven't done crap to it, I'm lazy <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> I'm gonna go ahead and replace the 02. I know a lot have people have had good luck with sparkplugs.com, but is an 02 from a good parts store ok? I've heard some bad things.. I just don't wanna wait for shipping from sparkplugs.com.

Also, this problem is only when engine is warmed up, idles fine when cold. Dunno if that isolates anything or not..

-Scerb

Re: very low idle/stall [Re: Scerb] #874786 03/13/08 05:18 AM
Joined: Apr 2004
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Happy Birthday 87Toy4x4 Offline
Body Damage is Cool
my vote is for the tps. happened to my coworker's 88.

are you throwing a code yet?


87 22R PU, 2? body lift, 33? BFG muds, 4.88's, F&R Lock-Rights, Rancho Shocks, EB's Street RV Head w/ 268 Cam, LCE Header, 2" to 2 1/4" exhaust, Flowmaster 50 series, Magnaflow high flow cat, complete Herculined SR5 interior, V6 BB, MC, and calipers.
Re: very low idle/stall [Re: 87Toy4x4] #874787 03/13/08 05:23 AM
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Scerb Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
ya, CEL came on on my way home tonight. I'll pull it tomorrow, I'd assume its the lean idle mixture again.. Doesn't the tps not really do anything at idle?? I want a carb <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Re: very low idle/stall [Re: Scerb] #874788 03/13/08 07:47 AM
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kewlynx Offline
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Oh yeah it does. It's part of the feedback loop for the ECU.

Seems to me there's something about how that loop basically works in the tech articles at www.autoshop101.com

TPS- root of all evil.

On the 02 sensor, if the box store has a Denso, go for it.


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Re: very low idle/stall [Re: kewlynx] #874789 03/13/08 02:34 PM
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subliminaltrips Offline
Wheeler
check the connections on the plug for the tps, clean them up a bit while your waiting on your o2 sensor to be shipped to ya.

Re: very low idle/stall [Re: subliminaltrips] #874790 03/13/08 07:17 PM
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Scerb Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
so yes, its code 25 - lean fuel mixture.

I bought a new denso 02... $117, ouch. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> Sparkplugs.com was 90+shipping, but its getting to the point where this is getting hard to drive so I gotta just suckitup and fix it now.

Ya, fix it now.

Go to take old 02 out, nuts rust into pieces, 02 won't come out.

Truck won't idle.

Awesome.
Fun.
I love Toyotas....


*throws new 02 threw windsheild*

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Re: very low idle/stall [Re: Scerb] #874791 03/14/08 01:36 AM
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subliminaltrips Offline
Wheeler
have you checked fuel pressure or thought about some trash in your tank? im asking because i had a similar issue and it turned out that i had the line to my charcoal canister disconnected and it was letting moisture get into the tank vent and caused a bunch of rust, the gas i drained out was a nice burnt orange color.... just a thought.....

Re: very low idle/stall [Re: Scerb] #874792 03/14/08 02:52 AM
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Happy Birthday 87Toy4x4 Offline
Body Damage is Cool
did you pb blaster it first and then use an o2 sensor socket?


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