Buddy you can shove it up your A$$!! Your very FIRST post said this:

About 3 years ago the rear end tore up in it, so I tore it down and rebuilt it. In the process I decided to check the front end, and it was not in the best shape, so I decided to rebuild it also. I did not have the time to do it myself, so I took it to a local shop and had them do it. I took it back to the woods and drove it around for a month or 2 w/no problem. They put in a new shell rock road on our hunt club (harder surface than we normally drive on here in the S FL swamps) and one day while driving on this there was a very load pop followed by a bunch of banging! I had no clue what was wrong so I took it back to my local mech. and he said both the front and rear ends were fine?

THREE YEARS!! So for THREE YEARS it was OK and then all of a sudden it started going south???

I wasn't ONE BIT off the mark!! If I (or anyone ELSE) did a gear change I would KNOW it was INCORRECT gears within 3 minutes of starting the engine..THREE YEARS after the fact you found it to be a gear problem AND on a hard packed road??

So you yell at me and tell me how knowlegable you are?? When in fact you don't know your A$$ from a gopher hole??

Big JIm <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Hey deuce, everybody including myself told you early on to check for matching gear ratios. But no, you want to argue. Everything pointed to mismatched gear ratios. Then you got the balls to say you finally found the problem. Hell, we told you what the problem was a long time ago. All you did was decide to quit being stubborn and take our advice.

Now, after he spent so much time trying to come up with possible solutions to your problem, you got the balls to blast Big Jim. If you had taken our advice and checked your gear ratios to start with, it wouldn't have gone that far. If you monitor this forum, you'll see that Big Jim has been very unselfish in sharing his time and wealth of knowledge with a bunch of people he doesn't even know.

I monitor a number of forums and I've seen a number of instances where guys write to a forum asking for assistance with a problem. Folks from the forum write back with good advice but guys like you insist on arguing. My opinion is: if you're going to argue, why ask?

THIS IS YELLING WHEN TYPING ON THE INTERNET! I never yelled at you in my posts. I never told you to kiss any derragatory body part in my posts. What I was mentioning is your a smart a$$ who hasn't been shown he's one. If you'd like I can do that for you. I don't go wheeling every weekend, the jeep probably got driven 5 or 6 times a year, at the most 10. The jeep is driven in sloppy conditions, where the tires are allowed to slip, so the problem went undetected for months after the rebuild. Once the problem was detected then I started to troubleshoot. The mistake I made was not checking the gear ratios b/c of the fact that I figured that wasn't the problem (I don't know respectable mech. respectable parts dealer I didn't doubt them). I made an improper assumption. I can tell you this BigJim that jeep was unloaded off the rack, drove up onto a trailer and hauled to the woods and in that time it never made a sound (after the initial rebuild of the front end). You never made any comment on ratios, yet you belittled me for having it in 4wd on hard surfaces as though I didn't know anything about 4wd. Where I'm from you either know about 4wd or you're a yankee so don't got there bro, I've worked on REAL 4wds, like swamp buggies that you guys have no clue about. Anytime you want to test your toys, just come south of Lake O' and I'll show you what 4wd is all about.
80CJ you are right about the suggestions about mismatched gear ratios, and that I didn't listen. Again, the reason was I couldn't possibly beleive that they got it wrong (both the mechanic and the parts dealer were beside themselves when I told them). I just knew it had to be something else, but you're right I was wrong. Maybe that was being stubborn, but you have to put the shoe on the other foot to be able to understand why I didn't try that. I felt all along it had to be something in the gearing with the way it was jumping, BUT I had eliminated the possibility of the wrong gear ratio for 2 reasons, 1. It took 2 months before the problem showed up after rebuild 2. I trusted (and still do, honest mistake)the parts dealer and the mechanic that helped me. Honest mistake! I didn't have the balls to find the problem, I eliminated everything else it could possibly be and realized I may have made a false assumption...and I did! I don't think it takes balls to do any of that, but hell what do I know...right?!

I don't care what you say, BigJim may be helpful, but the manner and candor he does it in has no place on a message board. I've never cussed him, nor will I EVER, that lacks class man, and is very childish. There is no need for that kind of attitude on a message board. He was very condescending in his posts and very insulting 2 things I will not tolerate.
Here is his answer to my first post:


I replied back clarifying some things, and especially the part about driving on shell roads in 4wd. I've done this for 20 years with this NEVER happening, but yet BigJim tells me I don't know what I'm talking about b/c it is a "common occurrence"





There you see, he tells me "There is nothing wrong with my vehichle. The drive needs more education about how a 4X$ works." There was no need for that condescending comment, again 20 years driving and working on 4wd vehicles in S. FL, I guess I shouldn't have taken offense.



I don't know what to tell you other than this didn't happen until it got onto that road, and it NEVER stayed locked up, NEVER. That goes to show, you may not know as much as you thought you did.



Here is where I talked to the mechanic and he said "it could have happened" but he didn' think so at the time, again the guy is a well respected, yet busy, mechanic, so I trusted him.



Again, this one is my favorite! All of that could not be further from the truth, and yet BigJim is such a big help!



Here again, I'm trying to explain what was going on to BigJim, and I even state that I couldn't beleive the ratios would have been changed. My bad for trusting 2 friends (parts dealer and mechanic)!



He keeps trying, but I'm telling you it did NONE of what you explained. It did fram and bang and jump, but it would quit, and would work for more than 1 minute! Again, I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm the only experiencing the problem, however...and I'm wrong...go figure! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />



Again, I try and explain what's going on (for like the 5th time).

Now that we've had our lesson in reading comprehension, let's take a look at what we've learned. I had a problem, made a false assumption, eliminated all other problems and realized my original assumption was false thanking all who helped along the way.
BigJim on the other hand tells me first I don't know how 4wd works, and I need to learn about driving in 4wd. I try to explain this to him and he becomes more adamant in telling me in a round-a-bout way how stupid I am. Then when I explain to him that what mine is doing is not like what he is explaing, again he tells me I don't know anything about 4wd, check the post above etc. I guess I'm the one in the wrong, and I have no problem admitting I made a false assumption, but I didn't cuss anybody once I admitted I was wrong. So with that I rest my case, and any time you want to test your stuff out, bring down here to the glade's I think we could show you a thing or 2!

Duece

Hey Duece question for you, those Swamp Buggies they run down there, donÆt they typically run one step higher ratio (ie 3.73:1 vs 4.10:1) in the front to help pull the buggies through the water and mud and such? Just curious, I thought remembered reading something about that previously.

Sean

Not that I've ever seen. I've built several for myself and also helped build others and never done that, but it is possible I guess. What most people do is add a gearbox or another transmission to lower the gearing and be able to turn the bigger tires.

Duece

Hoping this thread goes to the top. Ok, I finally have the funds to fix this dam thing, and I need some help! I have found out my ride is an 81 Jeep CJ 5 w/the Iron Duke 4 cyl. and an SR4 4 spd. w/Dana 300 transfer case. So here's what's been done:

1. Front/rear end rebuilt 4:10 gear ratio in both.
2. Transmission rebuilt from ground up.
3. Transfer case being pulled this week.

If you read back, the only 2 items I know this thing could be is Xfer case, or axles...am I missing something?

Duece

Ok, talked to mechanic this morning. He opened up xfer case, all he found out was there is a plastic bushing missing off one of the forks (Dana 300). When he pulled the xfer case, he noticed the bottom plate had been welded. I did this back before the problem started, as it rusted in 2 and bound up when the thing broke loose. I simply towed it back in, and put a bottle jack under it, welded a new piece of metal back in and thought I had it fixed. He claims I may have fouled the linkage up in the process, possibly? I wouldn't think so, but stanger things have happened. He's got a used plate he is going to let me use, so that will take care of that issue, and he's going to replace the bushing and check the linkage. I'd hate to know I waited all this time for my Jeep and it was something I did years ago!!! Oh well...

Duece

Sometimes you get to be the windshield! Most memorys are when you were the bug.
Big Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />