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Locking hubs & gas mileage. Not what I expected! #887577 05/27/08 12:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
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foxtrapper Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
In pursuit of higher gas mileage I installed a set of locking hubs on the T100 about 6 weeks ago. I didn't know what to expect, but I'd anticipated maybe a 1-2 mpg increase.

Surprise, the data shows slightly *worse* mileage with the hubs unlocked!

19.03 mpg unlocked
19.23 mpg locked, and that includes a 100 mile tow of a small trailer.

The unlocked data is a 2400 mile range. The locked is an 854 mile range.

Not at all what I'd expected to see. Apparently there's a lot more friction in those hub rings that I'd anticipated.


'97 T-100 SR5
'86 Toyota's, the variety pack (all gone)
Re: Locking hubs & gas mileage. Not what I expected! [Re: foxtrapper] #887578 05/27/08 02:14 PM
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jmoser Offline
Mudrunner
IMHO a 0.2 mpg difference is NOT statistically meaningful at all. Brake Specific Fuel Consumption is measured on a dyno and takes into account all factors that impact mpg - measuring it yourself via pumped gallons is virtually impossible. Air temp, humidity, tire pressure, actual speed, passenger weight[s], cargo, headwind/tailwind, headlight on/off, etc etc etc all have more than enough influence to make up a 0.2 mpg difference. Remember that the seasons have changed since you installed the hubs - this kind of test is almost meaningless unless run side by side in controlled conditions. I don't think the hubs should make that much of an mpg difference, biggest plus is that they save some wear on your CV joints.


Jeff
96 T100 SR5 4WD Ext Cab, Warn Hubs, HD torsion bars, Bilsteins, Camper Shell, TJM bar, factory 31 x 10.5's, Powertrax No-slip rear, Recaro driver's bucket
Re: Locking hubs & gas mileage. Not what I expected! [Re: foxtrapper] #887579 05/27/08 04:34 PM
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garym Offline
Rock Warrior
I didn't notice any appreciable difference in overall milage when i went to locking hubs either. At least the front end components should last longer and boots are a pain to deal with.


1997 T-100 4X4 Xcab,Warn Hubs
02 Camry LE
2008 Yaris
Re: Locking hubs & gas mileage. Not what I expected! [Re: garym] #887580 05/27/08 04:41 PM
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ErikB Offline
Toyota Moderator
Unpossible. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> There's no way simply unlocking your hubs could make mileage *worse*. The most "friction" they could have would be if they were locked, like the drive flanges.

I do agree that mileage savings are generally pretty insignificant though, and the real benefit is reduced wear and tear on the CV boots.


'97 4Runner, '06 F350, '86 4Runner, '05 WR450
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Re: Locking hubs & gas mileage. Not what I expected! [Re: ErikB] #887581 05/27/08 11:06 PM
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foxtrapper Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
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Unpossible. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> There's no way simply unlocking your hubs could make mileage *worse*.


Agreed. I wish the results wouldn't show otherwise. Mind you it's just a scosh, but it's a pretty durn consistent scosh.

Ah well, in any case, I didn't get a boost from the locking hubs.


'97 T-100 SR5
'86 Toyota's, the variety pack (all gone)
Re: Locking hubs & gas mileage. Not what I expected! [Re: foxtrapper] #887582 05/30/08 10:40 PM
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ddpromo1 Offline
Need a Spot
DIY Hybrid kit claims to double your gas mileage. Watch this video; http://www.advertisingagency1.com/water4gas.htm

I'm no mechanic, but it looks like it works..

Re: Locking hubs & gas mileage. Not what I expected! [Re: ddpromo1] #887583 05/31/08 11:17 PM
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wsquaredodie Offline
Rock Warrior
*****
That water / gas system bs has been around as long as I have. Even went to a seminar, paid for by a customer, back in the 60's.IT IS 100% BS. Water does not compress. A very minor mistake in quantity will wreck a motor. Fugeddaboudit!


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