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The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy #899630 08/09/08 06:49 PM
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One of the better looking Fords in a long time, Europe only with a 2 liter CR Diesel. USA is third world now, we only get leftovers

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/112_news080215_2009_ford_kuga/index.html

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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: LRJ4x4] #899631 08/09/08 09:47 PM
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Van Offline
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USA is third world now, we only get leftovers



It sure feels that way sometimes.


I don't understand why we can't get more diesel vehicles over here. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Having rented a Peugeot 407 HDi (Turbo Diesel), 2.L, 6 speed while in Spain this summer, I was amazed at the performance it had... but more importantly, the mileage it got for a sedan that size.

With 4 people and luggage, we averaged around 38 MPG highway/city driving combined.... and I don't pussyfoot around on the highways either.... average speed was around 90 MPH. Roughly 500 miles on 13 gallons of diesel <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> (although it was about $8 per gallon) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Can someone give me a good reason WHY we don't have more choices for diesel vehicles here in the USA. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Note: All calculations above were to the best of my ability. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />

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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: Van] #899632 08/09/08 10:43 PM
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looks like they are coping the subaru B9 Tribeca

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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: Van] #899633 08/10/08 04:26 AM
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My wifes 97 Passat TDI with 190k -5 people and luggage on freeway gets 45 plus MPG. My wife drove from Lacaster PA to Chaplin Conn. AND BACK 730 miles!!!!. Filled up at same DIESEL station in Mount Joy PA this Summer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: sasnydley] #899634 08/10/08 06:42 PM
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My wifes 97 Passat TDI with 190k -5 people and luggage on freeway gets 45 plus MPG. My wife drove from Lacaster PA to Chaplin Conn. AND BACK 730 miles!!!!. Filled up at same DIESEL station in Mount Joy PA this Summer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


I miss that area.. mount joy and lancaster is nice.

I found two gas stations across from each other down here that don't have ethanol, my corolla is back to ~38-40mpg average commuting.


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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: Van] #899635 08/10/08 08:22 PM
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Can someone give me a good reason WHY we don't have more choices for diesel vehicles here in the USA. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />



Emissions. Plain and simple. US emissions are MUCH more strict than that of other countries. And as of 2007, its gotten even worse with particulate filters.


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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: Adam F] #899636 08/11/08 05:45 PM
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Somehow I can't imagine that thing has worse emmissions than our 8, 10 or even 12 cylinder diesel pickup trucks.

Even new they just puke out black smoke when they take off from a stoplight.
Sounds like a conspiracy but I have to wonder how much of it is lobbyists for Chevron and GM keeping them out.

If we all buy diesels who's gonna buy the $4.50 premium gas???

Doesn't Switzerland has much higher emmissions standards than we do? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: onebadtrooper] #899637 08/11/08 06:36 PM
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looks like they are coping the subaru B9 Tribeca

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'Cept Subaru ruined it, and now it looks like a Pacifica.


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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: Adam F] #899638 08/12/08 01:44 AM
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Van Offline
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Emissions. Plain and simple. US emissions are MUCH more strict than that of other countries. And as of 2007, its gotten even worse with particulate filters.


Sorry, but I don't buy that answer, Europe use particulate filters also..... any proof?

I've been searching US diesel vehicles compared to European CO2 levels.... only problem is I can't find to many matches.

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Re: The new Ford Kuga, that you can't buy [Re: Van] #899639 08/12/08 02:42 AM
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sasnydley Offline
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Gov keeps pushing CORN Gas! Makes you wonder <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> COuld make CORN Oil _TWICE the bang for the buck <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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