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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: Brian894X4] #918274 12/02/08 01:50 PM
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My other problem is with this idea that hospitals should report to the government about people being injured. People's medical records and injuries are not the business of the government and I don't believe hospitals should be required to report anything. If a crime was committed, the police can investigate the crime and as part of that investigation attempt to subpoena the medical information via a judge.



I agree on the part of not reporting injuries to the police ACCEPT when it becomes a suspected case of either spousal or child abuse. You just cannot turn your head when an infant/spouse comes into an emergency room with suspect injuries. They need to be protected, and if thats a liberty that Im surrendering then so be it.


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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: ACES_HI] #918275 12/02/08 01:54 PM
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EMS folks are encouraged to report injuries that could be associated with suspected abuse also; not just LEO's.


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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: LRJ4x4] #918276 12/02/08 02:59 PM
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Personally, I hope he gets the maximum amount of jail time. I am sick of these athletes who make tons of money thinking they are better than everyone else, and think they can do whatever they want.
He broke the law by having a loaded, concealed handgun in a public area. Period.
Break the law....go to jail.


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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: lee_raider] #918277 12/02/08 05:28 PM
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No holster and a round in the chamber <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: Snowtoy] #918278 12/02/08 06:30 PM
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Giuliani (Republican) was very much responsible for NY gun control. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <---thinking guy.


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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: cmonty72] #918279 12/02/08 07:39 PM
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My other problem is with this idea that hospitals should report to the government about people being injured. People's medical records and injuries are not the business of the government and I don't believe hospitals should be required to report anything. If a crime was committed, the police can investigate the crime and as part of that investigation attempt to subpoena the medical information via a judge.

..and how is a hospital suppose to know if a gun shot victim was part of a crime or a self inflicted accident...take the word of the victim...come on...

There's a difference between a person coming into a hospital with a broken arm and a gun shot. It should be the responsiblity and required of the hospital to call the cops.

This guy will fry... They will get him on numerous counts..

No permit

Carrying in NYC

Carrying into a bar.

Carrying loaded.

Endangering others.

Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: Hiker] #918280 12/02/08 07:59 PM
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<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> X10000

#1 This guy is a moron. Hire a TEAM of body guards, if you're that "ballin"!!
#2 If you're going to carry a gun, do it right. Get a damn holster, and shut up about it.
#3 The NYC laws are hideously stupid, BUT that's the law there. I DO NOT agree with them, but that's no excuse to break them.
#4 it's no business of the gvmt your medical status.

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This guy will fry... They will get him on numerous counts..

No permit

Carrying in NYC

Carrying into a bar.

Carrying loaded.

Endangering others.


Really now??


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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: LandRaider] #918281 12/02/08 08:01 PM
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Really now??


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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: RichinROA] #918282 12/02/08 11:43 PM
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LRJ4x4 Offline OP
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You have to love NYC. The Cops are famous for shooting unarmed suspects and the armed suspects shoot themselves <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Anybody want to take bets on the jail time.Put me down for 4 months off season and community service.

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Re: Don't shoot yourself in NYC [Re: LRJ4x4] #918283 12/03/08 12:11 AM
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If you've ever been to NYC in the 70's and 80's and then again today...you'll now those laws work...

I've seen past and present NYC and there is a difference.

And sure you can complain all you want about a few rogue cops and some douchbag NFL player shooting himself.. These examples happen every day/week across the country, not just NYC. Just go to YouTube and you can see 100's of examples of idiots with guns. These idiots are the prime example why so many want gun ownership control in this country.

You think idiots like this were around 200 years ago?

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