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Re: SAS Spring Question... [Re: YotaT10095] #922108 12/25/08 03:28 PM
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Well if your just making a mall crawler I dont see the point in doing the SAS and such, alot of cash for no real use.

But if you must I would upgrade to 5.29 gears so you have some power on the road.


1996 T100, Mickey Thomson Classics, Bridgestone Dueler AT 265/75/16, custom offroad KC's.
Re: SAS Spring Question... [Re: CJMT100] #922109 12/26/08 10:50 AM
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YotaT10095 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Okay cool I was told 4.88 gears from Fat Rat Enterprise were I live. I have a axle allready and I cant lift it enough without a SAS. I have tried a body lift and a torsion bar upgrade it just caused a lot of issues with the IFS suspension. I have a D44 that is worth 2500 dollars I bought it from extreme gear offroad. I decided it would save me some stress dealing with the build of a axle. If you know anyone looking for a d44 front or a dana 60 rear for a toyota let me know i have all the parts just about and have spend hundreds of dollars on the axles.
Thanks for writing back I will probably go with the 5.29 if its better for street driving.


What's the satisfaction of paying someone to do the work......jump in learn and make a lot of mistakes....
Re: SAS Spring Question... [Re: YotaT10095] #922110 12/27/08 02:38 AM
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I think it would be better for street driving, would return more topend.

I hope it all works out for ya, but imho SAS and shoot for 35's. Wit an SAS it will be higher looking than a IFS lift and it will do well offroad and 35's are an ideal size imho for most.

Overall the drop frame lifts are the problem, the components are usually made of weaker steel and tend to not be heavy enough, hence why Erik modified his a bit (check his webpage).


I am not sure what fabricator here could do it, but I know on ultimate yota and yotatech there are a few that are much better equipped and knowledgeable than the one you have used thus far.

Good luck with it dude.


1996 T100, Mickey Thomson Classics, Bridgestone Dueler AT 265/75/16, custom offroad KC's.
Re: SAS Spring Question... [Re: YotaT10095] #922111 12/27/08 02:47 AM
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I can only report what I've found on my own truck and it may be due to other problems, but here's the result of my pondering gearing with respect to larger tires:

I have 33's on my truck and stock gears. I definitely notice that it feels like it's geared improperly for the tires. It's kind of like starting in 1.5th gear rather than 1st. Besides the issues with starting up, I believe that it also affects the gas mileage. Since the gears are effectively too high with the larger tires, I find myself one gear lower than I should be for the speed. This results in lower mileage. The alternative is to go up the gear, but then I lug the engine which isn't great either.

This is for road driving too. For off-road, the situation's worse. Even in 4-low, I find myself going faster and bouncing off the bumps harder than I prefer.

In short, if you are going to go with bigger tires, re-gear your diffs. I'll be doing that this spring I think. (money, job, etc. permitting)

Chip

Re: SAS Spring Question... [Re: adam] #922112 01/05/09 03:42 AM
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sounds like you may need to choose a different offroad co.


umm, yeah.

I have Rancho 44044s in the front and Alcans in the rear.


ditto that.


Scott Landon
1995 T100 - total buildup underway
1988 4Runner (22RE, W56) - new DD
2005 Dodge CTD 4x4 - Tow Beast
1990 Spec Miata
2010 GT3
2013 E92 M3
Re: SAS Spring Question... [Re: surlynkid] #922113 01/05/09 06:43 PM
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YotaT10095 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thanks for all the replies everyone.
I am going to gain 3 to four inches on whatever spring size I choose. The way I am going to mount the srpings to the frame, is going to add 3 inches maybe a tad bit more.

So im thinking of not using my springs I have and going with a toyota spring around 4 or 6 inches. I should be able to fit 37's pretty easy.


What's the satisfaction of paying someone to do the work......jump in learn and make a lot of mistakes....
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