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#4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
#931857
02/19/09 07:10 AM
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Joined: May 2006
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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A great couple months for me -- I swear I could start like 20 threads on my issues. Immediate problem:
My 89 V6 SWB raider is in the shop (A mitsu dealership with a rather new and fairly decent and earnest service crew). Crazy rough running engine led them to a particular plug that was not working and I have opted to get all new Plugs and wires done while there.... problem -- seems my #4 plug is stuck. As they try to remove it they can feel it thread skipping/slipping. They are worried about two things: 1 -- is it sealed or will it leak at this point? (giving them the option of leaving it in if it is working and sealing). #2 -- if they remove it there may be a rather expensive thread repair on the head -- apparently #4 position is awkwardly situated so hard to service and work on -- a head repair would be expensive and difficult.
This is my paraphrase of what they have told me so there might be some slight inaccuracies -- they want to know what to do -- what I want them to do. Anyone here familiar with this issue? Any tricks on getting that plug out without head damage. Any tricks on working on that particular head/position? I'm not sure what to do -- they are waiting on my call.
Many thanks for any thoughts/suggestions.
R.
89 Raider V6 95 SR Montero
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: Crops]
#931858
02/19/09 07:24 AM
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
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Remove old plug, and install a Helicoil. Problem solved.
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1 31's..Basically Stock
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: LandRaider]
#931859
02/19/09 02:06 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,876
Roll Me Over
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Remove old plug, and install a Helicoil. Problem solved. I bet they would not be willing to do that at a dealership.
89 2dr 3.0 AT, manual hubs. 33x12.5 MT gen 2 coils,Cranked front tbars Dons rocker protection, Front/Rear Bumpers. ARB rear locker, 2" BL, Beefed up skid plates/trailing arms. Gen II uca, 2 Bouncy seats www.youtube.com/TagGeorge
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: Tag]
#931860
02/19/09 05:13 PM
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Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 785
Rock Warrior
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no helicoil on spark plugs. they dont seal properly.
there are inserts available (plug blowout is a common problem on the ford mod V8) and we install inserts (with no warranty) all the time at the dealer.
87 Montero V6 SWB auto. dual bouncies 89 Montero V6 SWB 5 speed. dual bouncies 97 3000gt VR4 upgraded turbos, 10:1, E85 91 Stealth TT twin 18Gs, cams/heads, E85 03 cobra lightly modded <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> 91 MR2 turbo
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: vr4]
#931861
02/19/09 06:22 PM
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 59
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Thanks for your input guys. No matter how I look at this I guess it's not a great situation.
89 Raider V6 95 SR Montero
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: Crops]
#931862
02/19/09 07:46 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 226
Wheeler
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: joestruck]
#931863
02/19/09 10:34 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
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Don't forget bubble gum and pop tarts. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: rxinhed]
#931864
02/20/09 01:39 AM
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Joined: Sep 2001
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My BBC GM Performance Parts Aluminum heads came from the factory with Helicoils in them. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1 31's..Basically Stock
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: LandRaider]
#931865
02/20/09 09:32 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
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Roll Me Over
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My BBC GM Performance Parts Aluminum heads came from the factory with Helicoils in them. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> In that case you can just ship that whole pos motor to me and I will get rid of it for you. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
89 2dr 3.0 AT, manual hubs. 33x12.5 MT gen 2 coils,Cranked front tbars Dons rocker protection, Front/Rear Bumpers. ARB rear locker, 2" BL, Beefed up skid plates/trailing arms. Gen II uca, 2 Bouncy seats www.youtube.com/TagGeorge
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Re: #4 plug stuck... thread skipping on removal
[Re: LandRaider]
#931866
02/20/09 11:59 PM
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Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 785
Rock Warrior
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My BBC GM Performance Parts Aluminum heads came from the factory with Helicoils in them. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> while this picture isnt 100% accurate.....it is a good picture of the insert (the lower 1) we use at the dealer. http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblo...oil-look-at-calvans-ford-spark-plug-kit/the picture isnt 100% accurate though. hes not holding the actual helicoil spark plug insert. just a standard helicoil. having seen them side by side and used them i would never use the helicoil brand insert again. we actually had a truck come in about a month ago with the helicoil insert blown out. this is the actual helicoil insert..... ![[Linked Image]](http://images.marketworks.com/hi/55/55124/sat_insert_long.jpg)
Last edited by vr4; 02/21/09 12:00 AM.
87 Montero V6 SWB auto. dual bouncies 89 Montero V6 SWB 5 speed. dual bouncies 97 3000gt VR4 upgraded turbos, 10:1, E85 91 Stealth TT twin 18Gs, cams/heads, E85 03 cobra lightly modded <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> 91 MR2 turbo
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