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 To Birfield or Not
#976575
12/15/09 08:57 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 227
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Wheeler
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Getting for my gear change and front axle rebuild and was interested in the pro's/con's of a birfield eliminator kit vs hardened birfield's/axles when running a locker in front. It seems like the price will be about the same for either (app $400). Any help out there?
Thanks
84 4RUNNER,22R,HEDMAN,WEBER 32/36,Davis Unified Ignition,33" BFG
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: SALMONHEAD]
#976576
12/15/09 10:16 PM
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Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,002
Body Damage is Cool
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If you are going to spend the money, I'd run upgraded birfields. Better turning radius, IIRC.
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: carter]
#976577
12/15/09 11:57 PM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,686
Body Damage is Cool
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With 33" tires, you are good with stock axle shafts and birfields. I always was. 2 years of wheeling on 35" tires, each of my birfields had a crack. Noticed doing maintenance. I've always had a lock-rite locker in the front. I have since upgraded, using stock axle shafts, (I always take spares), and Longfield 27 spline (stock spline) birfields. Mabe if I go 39" or taller tires, I will go 30 spline all the way, but I don't see that for a long time.
85 4Runner - With NEW Marlin 4.7 Gears!! It's a whole new beast!
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: Staceman]
#976578
12/16/09 03:00 AM
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Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 172
Wheeler
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all the birfield eliminator kits are junk. just do it right and get some longfields and call it a day
PARANOIDS PAGES Of all the things I lost, I miss my mind the most. 1984 Toyota 4x4 SR5 X-Cab 1971 Toyota FJ40 2006 Subaru WRX wagon
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: PARANOID56]
#976579
12/17/09 08:10 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 227
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Wheeler
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Thanks to all, longfields and new axles it is. I'd rather upgrade while it's all apart and save a trail breakdown. We wheel all winter long here (often alone) and the Cascades can get really lonely (last Monday we saw zero vehicles all day). The run included miles of low/low running at 3500-4000 rpm with chains on both ends. The turn arounds when the trail is blocked (lots of falling trees in the winter)can be pretty hairy.
84 4RUNNER,22R,HEDMAN,WEBER 32/36,Davis Unified Ignition,33" BFG
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: SALMONHEAD]
#976580
12/19/09 04:53 AM
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Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 882
Rock Warrior
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long fields all the way.
two other toyota's with the elimiators went down on the run with broken axles.
they were trying to follow my wife, she has longs.
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: missouriman]
#976581
12/20/09 04:26 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 4,230
Roll Me Over
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This is what they look like when they let go. This kit was a much higher quality then the one that is offered by Randys. It took almost five years to blow it but when it went it took out more then the kit. The shock load took out the PS u-joint along with the hub and R&P. ![[Linked Image]](http://pics.montypics.com/oops/2009-12-19/1261279545_broken_redline__1_.jpg)
David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA
"Serenity through Sobriety"
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: OOP'S]
#976582
12/20/09 03:19 PM
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Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 882
Rock Warrior
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NICE.
my wife said theirs went bang bang..
one side then the other, one right after the other.
then of course with the elimiatiors... no spares.
backing up in a ravine where you were all most pulling a reverse wheelie.
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Re: To Birfield or Not
[Re: missouriman]
#976583
01/01/10 07:53 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 4,230
Roll Me Over
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NICE.
my wife said theirs went bang bang..
one side then the other, one right after the other.
then of course with the elimiatiors... no spares.
backing up in a ravine where you were all most pulling a reverse wheelie. I drove out in one wheel drive because I also had a broken rear axle that I had broke earlier in the day.
David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA
"Serenity through Sobriety"
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