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help wont start #978677 12/31/09 05:26 PM
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snowboardvdr Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
just changed battery n alt. im stuck HELP!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />


if speed kill do brakes give life?
Re: help wont start [Re: snowboardvdr] #978678 12/31/09 06:13 PM
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bombardj1 Offline
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will lights and radio come on, does it turn over ? check all the wiring. just take easy 1 thing at a time.


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If your check engine light is on at least you know the light still works
Re: help wont start [Re: bombardj1] #978679 01/01/10 01:00 AM
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Ya, more info please. Was it fine before the replacements or were you trying to fix the problem but it didn't work?


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Re: help wont start [Re: snowboardvdr] #978680 01/01/10 01:07 AM
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Hydra747 Offline
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just changed battery n alt. im stuck HELP!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />


Hope it was an optima red top and a 160 amp alternator upgrade! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Do you think that your aftermarket alarm system is involved?

....No Crank or what?

Re: help wont start [Re: Hydra747] #978681 01/01/10 01:57 AM
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snowboardvdr Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
when it died all i did was jump start it to get her going. checked batt volt and it was low. its the orignal batt so i changed it, had the altanator checked at auto zone and it was dead. so i went and got both a batt and altanator. i turn the key and all i hear is clicking of the starter.. im going to check the connection to the starter tomorrow, hopefully. getting a big nor'eastah.up here lots of snow!! just rebuilt the carb on my snowblower thank god! thanks for the imput guys <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


if speed kill do brakes give life?
Re: help wont start [Re: snowboardvdr] #978682 01/01/10 02:10 AM
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bombardj1 Offline
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clean your battery cable connectors at the posts


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If your check engine light is on at least you know the light still works
Re: help wont start [Re: bombardj1] #978683 01/01/10 12:27 PM
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2002_Sporty Offline
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That clicking means that your not getting enough power to turn the starter. The batterie is probrably almost dead.
If it's that cold outside, then you need to warm up the batterie and recharge it.
New batteries arn't always fully charged, just enough to turn over the starter and get the alternator to start providing power.

It's -25 degrees below freezing tonight in Fairbanks Alaska.
Cold weather will suck the power from a batterie in hours if not kept within operating temperature.

I'm a security guard and I have to jump start vehicles at our corperation every day with the same sound as yours.

I also get that same sound every morning from a dead batterie if I do not plug in my vehicle. My Sporty is winterized with a batterie warmer, oil pan heater, transmission heater, and engine block heater.

You should be able to jump start your Sporty after allowing the batterie to suck the life out of the one your jumping it from. Just have the other guy hold his revolutions at about 2000RPM while you attempt to start you vehicle so you know his alternator is going and providing enough cold cranking amps to start yours.

Good Luck and keep us posted.


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Re: help wont start [Re: 2002_Sporty] #978684 01/01/10 01:16 PM
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bombardj1 Offline
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at -25* I would need a million amp battery in a back pack and a 12v body heater suit


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If your check engine light is on at least you know the light still works
Re: help wont start [Re: bombardj1] #978685 01/01/10 03:08 PM
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Mudrunner
Cold and your Sportage:

1. Cold slows the chemical reaction in the Sporty's battery, reducing its power output. Battery output is usually rated at 77?F. Below that temperature and the power drops drastically. At about 5?F a fully charged lead-acid battery has only half its rated amp-hour capacity. Keeping the battery warm will allow the engine to crank and start faster, and prevent flooding. Electric battery blankets keep a battery warm. So will a small trickle charger.

2. Oil thickens when it's cold, which increases friction and makes it harder for the starter motor to spin the engine. Keeping the engine warm by using a block heater and oil pan heater also helps starting, but another major benefit is reduced engine wear. Warm parts allow engine oil to flow easier into critical areas. Most engine wear occurs in the first couple minutes after a cold start. Rich fuel mixtures wash lubrication from the cylinder walls. Thick oil doesnÆt spray onto moving parts as easily, so using winter grade oil will help reduce engine wear. OwnerÆs manuals list oil viscosity best suited for cold winter driving.

3. If you smell gas while trying to start your Sporty and the engine has been cranking far too long, then the engine may be flooded. This means that there is too much gasoline in the cylinders and the spark plugs are wet, causing the spark to go across the insulator instead of across the electrodes. Putting the gas pedal to the floor during cranking will turn off most fuel injection so that the flooded engine can be ôclearedö, but the engine may still not start unless it is warmed up and the spark plugs are changed.

4. Tires, transmission, wheel bearings and other moving parts all need warm up time. The catalytic converter doesn't function at its peak until it reaches between 400?C and 800?C. Although it is safe to drive your Sporty after a cold start, it is important to avoid high speeds and rapid acceleration for the first two to three miles. The goal is to bring the whole vehicle up to peak operating temperature as quickly as possible while maximizing fuel economy.

Cold Starting Sportage Engine:

1. It is important, when starting your Sporty in extremely cold weather, not to flood the engine or kill the battery.
2. You won't need to pump the gas at all, because a computer chip runs the injectors for optimum gas flow.
3. Turn the key. If the engine doesn't turn over in five seconds, turn off and wait a few seconds. Try, Try Again. But don't kill the battery. Use your listening ears.
4. Once Started: Allow a minute for the oil to thin out and get pumping; Oil settles in an engine, thickens and coagulates.
5. While Driving: Running high RPMs with cold oil creates an unpleasant metal-on-metal environment which is detrimental to an engine's health. Once the engine is warm, it can be run like any other time. "Like You Stole It"

If the Damn thing still don't start then push the heap into a garage and let it thaw out/warm up. Charge battery & pray.


2002 4dr Kia Sportage 4X4
Tires:235/75/15, Wheels: Black 15x8 Steel ProComp 2.5" B.S., Hubs:Warn Manual, Lift:3" UPYOURKIA, Trailer Hitch, Cargo Rack, Clinometer.
Re: help wont start [Re: 2002_Sporty] #978686 01/02/10 02:14 PM
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snowboardvdr Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
thanks for the imput guys, whats this about an alt upgrade? i checked the starter cables and cleaned and reconnected. wanted to get some new batt post connections but autozone closed early cuz of the storm we r having. i will try to get some as soon as i can. i had to take the snowmobile to work..lol.. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


if speed kill do brakes give life?
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