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HG replacement - started the tear-down
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10/29/10 04:59 AM
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On my '94 pickup 22re. After getting the plenum off I noticed what seemed like gas, oil, and coolant mixing together and making a mess of things inside it and the intake manifold. Make any sense? I'm trying to figure out how it ended up like that. I'll finish the tear-down tomorrow and maybe have something to add. BTW, there is no coolant in the oil.
Also, when I depresserized the fuel lines by running the engine and disconnecting power at the fuel pump I noticed that the engine killed pretty much immediately upon having made the disconnection. I expected it to run for a few seconds. Is this normal?
Last edited by outdoorfan; 10/29/10 05:03 AM.
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: outdoorfan]
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10/29/10 06:24 AM
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The fuel pressure for the EFI is a lot higher than for a carbie, so it probably evacuated pretty fast.
It'll be interesting to see if the HG is egged out or not.
You're probably going to want to drop and clean your oil pan. The boss that the plug is mounted in sits up about a 1/2" or so; can't get it completely clean. Change the filter too.
Just tossing that out there. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: kewlynx]
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10/29/10 12:29 PM
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Just curious...what made you think the HG was blown?
Speaking for myself, it's always been a leak on the exhaust valve side, pushing exhaust into the water journal, thereby super-heating the coolant and over-heating the truck.
If Mad Max had a 4runner...
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: TexJeff87]
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10/29/10 01:40 PM
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Just curious...what made you think the HG was blown?
Speaking for myself, it's always been a leak on the exhaust valve side, pushing exhaust into the water journal, thereby super-heating the coolant and over-heating the truck. Yes, I think it was the same for me. I confirmed it with the chemical kit from NAPA. And, yes, the coolant system was being pressurized.
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: kewlynx]
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10/29/10 01:45 PM
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The fuel pressure for the EFI is a lot higher than for a carbie, so it probably evacuated pretty fast.
It'll be interesting to see if the HG is egged out or not. Sorry, but you're speaking in terms this ignorant hillbilly doesn't understand. LOL! "Egged out"? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
You're probably going to want to drop and clean your oil pan. The boss that the plug is mounted in sits up about a 1/2" or so; can't get it completely clean. Change the filter too. Which filter, the oil filter or another one? Sorry for the stupid question. I did change the oil filter already.
Just tossing that out there. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: outdoorfan]
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10/29/10 07:43 PM
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1985 SR5 4Runner eLocked with Carter Lock 4.7:1 single case Davez Offroad twin stick
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: toyrunner]
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10/30/10 05:59 AM
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You are lucky that it's just the gasket. I had the same exhaust in the cooling system prob as well. Needed a different block!! ![[Linked Image]](http://members.cox.net/stacewilliams/jpgs/cyl3bad.jpg)
85 4Runner - With NEW Marlin 4.7 Gears!! It's a whole new beast!
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: outdoorfan]
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10/30/10 06:31 AM
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Today I got the head off and into the machine shop for cleaning and resurfacing. I was in such a hurry I had no time to really look at things. There's quite a bit of oil on the top of the block, especially in and around the #4 cylinder. I will clean it up tomorrow to better evaluate things. I'm praying the block is okay 'cause I don't have the money to do a complete rebuild right now.
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: outdoorfan]
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11/01/10 05:33 AM
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Well, this is going slower than I had planned due to other things coming up. I will start reassembly tomorrow. I got everything cleaned today. The old HG didn't look terrible; no obvious rips, tears, or blow-outs. Of course, it did fail, so I'm not saying it was perfect. The block looked good, thankfully. Sorry, no pictures.
I took the cooling fan clutch apart, and it was definitely low on silicone oil. So, I put some STP oil treatment in there. Believe it or not, the local Toyota parts guy suggested that since he said there was no other silicone oil readily available anywhere in the country. Anyway, I hope I didn't overdo it 'cause I filled it pretty full.
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Re: HG replacement - started the tear-down
[Re: outdoorfan]
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11/01/10 06:36 AM
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Egged out- shape of gasket out of round; looks kind of like an egg-distorted.
Yep oil filter if coolant got in there. Glad the block is okay.
http://www.walkablecommunities.org/Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. **ubi apis- ibi salus**
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