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Re: I'm gonna need to extract, rate these drill bits if you can....
[Re: off-roader]
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11/26/10 04:32 AM
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Joined: May 2006
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My experience with cobalt bits is they are better for drilling very hard substances (stainless, hardened steel, etc.). For mild steel, use lots of coolant and a high RPM - probably about double what one would normally use with high-speed steel bits. That said, I would think that bolt would be hardened steel but perhaps someone can shed more light here? My metallurgical vocabulary is limited. I was thinking about a metal file as opposed to a grade 5/8 bolt. I'm sure there is a difference in the characteristics.
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Re: I'm gonna need to extract, rate these drill bits if you can....
[Re: Mo95sr]
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11/26/10 05:30 AM
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Joined: Mar 2010
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Ok, I just got done doin the same thing on my 95SR. I bought the set of crio bits from home depot, these might be good for other softer metals but for some reason are JUNK for the type of metal in that crank bolt. From there i went through two more bits of simular quality with minimal success. I finaly broke down and called my local specialty tool suply store McFadden dale's. They sold me an excelent quality S&D HD Black and Gold bit that went through it like a hot knife through butter. I was amazed to find that this bit was Just a high speed steel bit, however it was a very well manufacturered tool. The bit did cost me $35 but I would have saved the $100 i spent on all those other bits had i started with this one in the first place. Yet another leson learned, sometimes the manufacturer is more important than the materials used. And when it comes to tools ALWAYS buy American made! Try to find a specialty tool store in your area like Ace, Fasteners, Fastenal, Mcfadden Dales, ect. And make sure you get the right tap, I went through the same mess with that issue as well. The tap i used was about 50 bucks, but was well worth it and once again a nothing special U.S. made tool did the job with ease when all the overseas "special" tools made from the "best" materials just broke or striped. Good luck bro, and dont hesitate to pm me if things get bad. Will do. I agree with manufacturer being more important than proclaimed "material" it's made from. Find a company that has been doing it for 50+ years and is tooled up to put out a good quality product. I will be moving on this project here in the next week or so and will check back in here not if, but when I hit a snag. Thanks again. Hope everyone's Thanksgiving was great. Extracting article!!!!
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Re: I'm gonna need to extract, rate these drill bits if you can....
[Re: Rafterman191]
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11/26/10 04:15 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
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Body Damage is Cool
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When I did mine I got the bits from a local hardware store- Started small and worked my way up. After I had what appeared to be a "tube" I took an old Allen wrench about 4-5mm and ground it into a pick of sorts and lightly tapped until I bent down a lip and it just unscrewed out. I got I tap and a thread follower from a matco tool guy- I ended up just using the thread follower to clean out the threads- Get a good drill that is SMALL to fit in tight space. Good luck!
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Re: I'm gonna need to extract, rate these drill bits if you can....
[Re: sasnydley]
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11/26/10 06:29 PM
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Joined: May 2000
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Many of Home Depot drills are great for drilling wood and not a lot else. A fancy coating on cheap steel is still a crappy drill bit. I'm sure they have some good drills.. A good source: All About drill bits Left Hand Drills Short Drill Bits Cobalt Steel has better properties when hot. If your drilling too fast and or without enough coolant it wont dull. I would not recommend a carbide drill. Carbide is pretty brittle and not very forgiving if it catches. Kevin
Last edited by Kevin C; 11/26/10 07:32 PM.
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Re: I'm gonna need to extract, rate these drill bits if you can....
[Re: Kevin C]
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11/27/10 02:38 AM
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Joined: Jan 2001
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Web Wheeler
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The good steel better be in the extractor. Ever try to drill one out? Start the hole with a 1/8" or smaller, and step up in size. I have the best luck with spiral fluted extractors.
I find that if I put the extractor under torque just short of strip out, then tap the extractor sharply, it will break loose the fastener stub most of the time.
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Re: I'm gonna need to extract, rate these drill bits if you can....
[Re: fasteddy]
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11/28/10 06:15 AM
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 48
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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The good steel better be in the extractor. Ever try to drill one out? Start the hole with a 1/8" or smaller, and step up in size. I have the best luck with spiral fluted extractors.
I find that if I put the extractor under torque just short of strip out, then tap the extractor sharply, it will break loose the fastener stub most of the time. Eddy has spoken <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
'91 Montero RS '96 Sidekick JLX '78 Wifey XXX
let me tell you of the days of high adventure...
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