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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: 95LS]
#1030491
06/25/11 09:20 PM
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Joined: Jan 2010
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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could be, I guess - I hate to replace it not knowing. On the other hand, it's probably the original, so no telling what kind of shape it's in. I might just gut the thing.
keep the ideas coming, guys - I'm considering/checking all of them! Thanks!
96 F250 4x4 Powerstroke 92 F150 4x4 Cummins 4BT Turbodiesel 90 Mitsubishi Mighty Max 4x4 3.0
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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: mineitnow]
#1030492
06/25/11 11:38 PM
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Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 231
Wheeler
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Stand at the back of your vehicle while someone else revs your engine a bit,......if you get nothing but a whooshing sound........I would take it to a muffler shop for evaluation........there are generica catalytic converters available at muffler shops that might be OK for your particular state's/County's inspection procedure. If you are in an area where no exhaust emission test is done, and you suspect the cat,.....try a "test pipe".............that's a staight pipe replacement for the cat...........if it fixes the issue, then you will have to decide whether you can live with the test pipe or if you need to move forward with a new cat.
BC in Austin, TX
95 3.0 LS (24v) 241,000 miles and still going
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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: 95LS]
#1030493
06/26/11 04:52 PM
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Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 81
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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No emissions here, but I hesitate to gut the cat or put a pipe section in it. Do you guys really think it might be the cat? If it was partially plugged, wouldn't I see sluggish performance and/or maybe increased engine temps? I had one plug in the past and the engine went into the red pretty quick...
I'll keep trying things - I hope to get to the bottom of it because, after all of this work, the vehicle will go to my brother who really needs it. And, he's not too mechanically inclined, so I'd like it to be as trouble free for him as possible.
I appreciate all the ideas and keep them coming! Thanks!
96 F250 4x4 Powerstroke 92 F150 4x4 Cummins 4BT Turbodiesel 90 Mitsubishi Mighty Max 4x4 3.0
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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: mineitnow]
#1030494
06/26/11 06:23 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,511
Body Damage is Cool
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take off your drive belts and see if it still makes the noise Yeah, I'll try that - just haven't done it yet. That was going to be one of my first steps. What happened when you took the belts off?
95 Montero SR 3.8 MIVEC, Advance headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, OME shocks & rear springs, 2" body lift, 3" tank lift, 4.90s, TRE front locker, factory rear locker, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") tires, Sport big brakes
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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: ryany]
#1030495
06/28/11 01:15 AM
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Joined: Jan 2010
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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It's a crack in the y-pipe, about 2" after they come together. I had the wife do some quick revs while I was under it and I could hear and feel the exhaust leak. When the engine torqued, the crack actually spread apart. I'd say there is a good chance that the cat is at least partially plugged, however, because it would seem that alot of backpressure exists to create the exhaust to flow out of that crack fast enough to whistle like that. I'm going to sleeve that cracked area next weekend and also gut the cat. What's the easiest way to gut a cat? Years ago, I had an 85 Toyota truck and I just drove some rebar "through" it and it broke apart and fell out of the housing. I remember it was a bear hitting it hard enough to bust it all up. What's the easiest way that you guys have found?
Will my O2 sensor throw a code if I gut the cat? I will see if it does - if so, I will try the antifouling inserts for spark plugs - supposedly, if you space the O2 sensor "out" a little bit, it will fool the O2 sensor into not sensing a fault.
96 F250 4x4 Powerstroke 92 F150 4x4 Cummins 4BT Turbodiesel 90 Mitsubishi Mighty Max 4x4 3.0
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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: mineitnow]
#1030496
06/28/11 01:47 AM
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Joined: Jun 2002
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Trail Leader
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You're on the right track with rebar. A roofing pike would probably work, too, and those have some heft.
Is a 1990 ECU even sophisticated enough to throw a code for an out of range O2 sensor? My guess is "no," but we'll wait to see what others think.
John B.
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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: JohnnyBfromPeoria]
#1030497
06/28/11 06:47 PM
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Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 422
Mudrunner
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When I was inspecting my cat, I had this piece of pipe "fall" in there and had a sledgehammer "slip" onto the pipe and break it up. I'm so accident prone. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> It won't throw a code cause the sensor is before the O2. On the newer ones with O2's before and after, the rear checks for a different reading then the front. That's how the O2 can tell if the cat is plugged/bad.
Blacktero: 90 Montero Lwb V6 RS Model. 16" Toyota Alloy Rims, Dual Bouncy's; Gen II Front Rotors & Calipers; Rear LSD
Sraider: 87 Raider 2.6 base. Work yet to be done.
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Re: High pitch (similar to turbo) sound...
[Re: mineitnow]
#1030498
06/28/11 06:55 PM
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Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 231
Wheeler
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It's a crack in the y-pipe, about 2" after they come together. I had the wife do some quick revs while I was under it and I could hear and feel the exhaust leak. When the engine torqued, the crack actually spread apart. I'd say there is a good chance that the cat is at least partially plugged, however, because it would seem that alot of backpressure exists to create the exhaust to flow out of that crack fast enough to whistle like that. I'm going to sleeve that cracked area next weekend and also gut the cat. What's the easiest way to gut a cat? Years ago, I had an 85 Toyota truck and I just drove some rebar "through" it and it broke apart and fell out of the housing. I remember it was a bear hitting it hard enough to bust it all up. What's the easiest way that you guys have found?
Will my O2 sensor throw a code if I gut the cat? I will see if it does - if so, I will try the antifouling inserts for spark plugs - supposedly, if you space the O2 sensor "out" a little bit, it will fool the O2 sensor into not sensing a fault. Take it to a muffler shop. they can weld the crack for probably $5 or $10. Have them evaluate the cat while you are there. If its good, no sense in gutting it. BC
95 3.0 LS (24v) 241,000 miles and still going
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