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Distributor upgrade (Gen 1-2.6)
#1061074
06/22/13 02:02 PM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 139
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Wheeler
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On a Gen 1 (2.6), does anybody have pictures, drawings, or a diagram showing what and how to upgrade the stock distributor? I found a couple references from Fast Eddie, Mr Ray, and others, but I think they were discussing upgrading a 6 on a Gen 1. From what some of the posts I found, the upgrade can be done and was discussed, but I didn't find anything past, present, or FAQ's that addressed it (if it can be done at all)?.. so I was hoping somebody had something to share? There were posts that mentioned that it was done to a 6, but nothing about a 4, so after searching I found http://www.msdignition.com/instructions/Products/Tech_Info/frm28371_coil%20compability.pdf... that provides a lot of information but I don't have a clue what really works with what(electrical stuff)!!! Since there's so many personal views about MSD, ACCEL, Mallory, and other manufacturers, there's a lot to consider especially when I don't know what setup would work best for a stock 2.6 (or if it can be upgraded)?
RockU - Federal Way, WA - 1989 Montero, New-2.6L, New-5spd, New Clutch, header, 10x15 wheels, 32x11.5x15 Mud Claw (Cardovan), 4" lift, Superwinch Hubs, Front LSD, Synch 38/38 Weber Carb, K&N filter, (Let's hit the trail!) Home Email: jondanderson2002@yahoo.com
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Re: Distributor upgrade (Gen 1-2.6)
[Re: RockU]
#1061075
06/22/13 06:51 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,649
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About all that can be done is an improved coil, other than using quality replacement parts. If you have good hands and eyes, you can tell if the centrifugal advance needs to be rebuilt. It probably does, and this will do as much as anything to improving the function. I find that the pins and the slots they run in on the weights to advance plate linkage wear around the cruise at 3krpms area due to vibration and lack of lubrication, the the timing starts jumping around there, losing you optimum advance at that most used area. When I did mine, I also had a bad or weak coil (can't 'member, it's been decades ago, now), and I bought an Accel Super Coil, and had no problems with it. I bought it because I needed to use up a credit at the speed shop where I got it. Any quality coil is adequate.
In truth, if the stock setup does an adequate job of firing the mixture, nothing you do to it will make any improvements. If the spark is hot enought to give an acceptable probability of combustion, and happens at the right time, nothing will do more. Addtessing the timing wear will make it happen at the right time.
Test the vac advance can. You don't need a special tool, just suck on the hose and see if the actuator moves, and moves the timing plate without slop. Often, the diaphragm in the flying saucer is cracked. There are centrif advance vs. rpm and vac advance vs inches of mercury in the fsm, and you can test both with no more than a timing light and vac hand pump or other source (sucky mouth may be enough, with a gauge in addition. Disconnect and plug the vac hose when you check the centrif advance amount (need a helper watching the tach for this), and hold a high idle and hook the vac pump/gauge and apply vac to the spec and check advance with the light. A timing light will reveal spark scatter if you hold a 3000 idle and watch the light. If the advance is worn, the spark will jump around in advance amount.
Not responsible for advice not taken...
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Re: Distributor upgrade (Gen 1-2.6)
[Re: RockU]
#1061076
06/22/13 07:02 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,511
Body Damage is Cool
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What exactly are you looking to upgrade about the distributor? Other than fabricating a distributorless ignition system utilizing individual ignition coils and an engine management system to run them so you can ditch the distributor completely, I don't think there are many upgrade options. Upgrading to a performance coil, quality plugs and wires, and rebuilding your distributor with new vacuum advance, cap & rotor to make sure it's functioning properly should leave you with a pretty capable ignition system.
95 Montero SR 3.8 MIVEC, Advance headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, OME shocks & rear springs, 2" body lift, 3" tank lift, 4.90s, TRE front locker, factory rear locker, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") tires, Sport big brakes
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Re: Distributor upgrade (Gen 1-2.6)
[Re: ryany]
#1061077
06/23/13 06:04 AM
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Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 427
Mudrunner
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on my 2.6 set up i have a distributorless ignition via my megasquirt and a ford edis set up
on my other d50 2.6 I want o do distributorless igntion via megasquirt spark only.
On my 4wd truck that i switched to distributorless was a vast improvment over my distributor.
1989 Mighty Max 4WD 2.6 Turbo,Auto EFI...megasquirt! 4.62 Rear LSD! 1989 Mighty Max 2WD 2.6 5 speed slammed 1993 Eagle Talon TSI
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