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CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure #1063981 09/16/13 07:06 PM
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StockRaider Offline OP
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I have been running a Gen2 steering box in my 89 LWB Montero for the last 2 years. In that time I broke 2 pitman arm stubs off. Both stationary so thank god no disasters. I pulled a Gen1 gear box and pitman arm and compared them side by side. the Gen2 pitman arm is just under an inch longer. I am assuming this is causing the front end to bind up causing excessive wear and breaking of the pitman arm. I looked at changing the pitman arm for a Gen1, but the splines are too different to work. Sucks, but I guess without some more reverse engineering, Gen1 steering boxes are the safest route to go when your old one fails... Just a heads up to those people who have done the upgrade.


Richard E
1989 Montero - Stock-ish
1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
1983 Honda XL600R
Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: StockRaider] #1063982 09/16/13 07:22 PM
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Ouch! Glad you're safe. I've lost steering twice in different vehicles. One at 70mph the other while pulling out of a driveway. Not something I care to repeat.


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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: StockRaider] #1063983 09/16/13 08:49 PM
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If you can install the gen2 idler arm, that should elimintate any binding.


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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: fasteddy] #1063984 09/18/13 01:59 PM
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I've had the GenII box and idler for 3 years with zero issues with binding. That's on 35's too and wheeling the teetotal piss out of it. Sounds like you've got an isolated issue...


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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: hazy_daze] #1063985 09/18/13 06:09 PM
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Should I put a Gen 1 Box on my Gen 2 when it goes bad? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: hazy_daze] #1063986 09/18/13 11:24 PM
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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: hazy_daze] #1063987 09/19/13 12:33 AM
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I've had the GenII box and idler for 3 years with zero issues with binding. That's on 35's too and wheeling the teetotal piss out of it. Sounds like you've got an isolated issue...


He's running the gen 2 steering gear with the Gen 1 idler, that must be the issue.


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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: TOASTY] #1063988 09/19/13 01:13 AM
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My thought too. If the pitmann is longer, the idler must be longer, too. This would at best cause some mismatched steering angles.


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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: fasteddy] #1063989 09/19/13 01:41 AM
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Oso Offline
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whew! i swapped to a gen 2 box and this post had me concerned until i read that so long as i swap the idler too the set up is solid. i did just that - lucky hunch. thanks for the follow up posts guys! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: CAUTION SR steering box in Gen1 Failure [Re: Oso] #1063990 09/19/13 02:13 AM
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I never swapped the idler, I stole my box from the Raider so I will just install the box and idler in the Raider. Glad it could be clarified.


Richard E
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1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
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