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Interesting diff lock option
#1064593
10/03/13 04:47 PM
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Joined: Mar 2012
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Ive heard of using your e-brake with lsd to send traction to the good wheel, but i had never thought of anything like this.... Its not rocket science or anything but it works. Or maybe you guys had seen this and im too much of a newbie. What do you guys thinkk about this? Pretty much the guy has 2 rear e-brake cables one for each wheel, with 2 levers of course. Locks the wheel in the air with e-brake and voila!! http://youtu.be/_3oKJWRTjhsJust thought id share, hope everyone is having a great day!
1988 MONTERO SWB 2.6L 5SPEEED MANUAL, 96SR LOCKED REAR, 8INCH FRONT LSD FRONT, AISIN MANUAL HUBS, CUSTOM F & R BUMPERS, ROCK SLIDERS, TUBE HALF DOORS, 9K WINCH, HOMEMADE SNORKLE, SOME OTHER STUFF.
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: tonygon]
#1064594
10/03/13 05:39 PM
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Joined: Jan 2002
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It really works when you have crawler gears to power though the brakes though.
1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff
1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: TOASTY]
#1064595
10/03/13 07:46 PM
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Joined: Mar 2012
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It really works when you have crawler gears to power though the brakes though. The point of individual e-brakes is to fully lock the one in the air and not lock the one you want to turn, Then you release the brake once the flying wheel is on the ground. So you wont be going through brake shoes or pads.
1988 MONTERO SWB 2.6L 5SPEEED MANUAL, 96SR LOCKED REAR, 8INCH FRONT LSD FRONT, AISIN MANUAL HUBS, CUSTOM F & R BUMPERS, ROCK SLIDERS, TUBE HALF DOORS, 9K WINCH, HOMEMADE SNORKLE, SOME OTHER STUFF.
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: tonygon]
#1064596
10/03/13 09:38 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
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Only works with an LSD or electronic brake system. I've tried this work open axles on buggies...cutting brakes...but for different purposes.
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: rxinhed]
#1064597
10/03/13 10:10 PM
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Joined: Mar 2012
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Only works with an LSD or electronic brake system. I've tried this work open axles on buggies...cutting brakes...but for different purposes. I might not be understanding myself, or not explaining right. The guy has an OPEN carier. Think about it, why is the wheel in the air always the one to turn? Cause its the one with less traction. What if u have one rear wheel in the air and the other firm on ground, then you stick a huge prybar through your wheel thats off the ground so it can rest on the leaf spring locking that wheel 100%? Then the wheel on firm ground would have "less traction" than the wheel that cant possibly turn because of the prybar. Then the traction would be sent to the grounded tire. No? Thats what it looks like to me and also according to what the dudes are saying in spanish. I dont think ive had any drugs or alcohol <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
1988 MONTERO SWB 2.6L 5SPEEED MANUAL, 96SR LOCKED REAR, 8INCH FRONT LSD FRONT, AISIN MANUAL HUBS, CUSTOM F & R BUMPERS, ROCK SLIDERS, TUBE HALF DOORS, 9K WINCH, HOMEMADE SNORKLE, SOME OTHER STUFF.
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: tonygon]
#1064598
10/03/13 11:01 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
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I first used this system on a Meyers Manx, the first dune buggyt, in the 60's. There were no traction aids for a veedub diff, so we had to finagle it. It works with lsd's, by preloading the lsd clutches, and will work somewhat with open diffs to transfer some of the torque to the wheel with most traction, not near as much as an lsd, but some is better than none, and it's gotten me out of stucks.
It is no replacement for an lsd or locker.
Not responsible for advice not taken...
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: tonygon]
#1064599
10/04/13 01:00 AM
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Joined: Jan 2004
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Tony, you are correct and yes it works. But a locker is so much better.
99 Montero....15mpg! Sold (so sad) 02 Jetta TDI....48mpg! 03 2500 Ram QCLB Cummins....18mpg 02 2500 Yukon XL, We out grew the montero, at least it has one locker.....13mpg (sold) 01 montero limited
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: motero]
#1064600
10/04/13 02:12 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
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Farm tractors have been using a similar system for years. A peddle for each rear wheel so you can turn on a dime, right or left.
Michael j
TreadLightly! Trainer
Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )
GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.
GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: Grasscat]
#1064601
10/04/13 02:29 AM
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What I said already. My racer & buggy friends called them cutting brakes, one handle for each rear wheel. On the flats or in the dunes, you could turn a buggy around in 1.5 times the length of the car.
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Re: Interesting diff lock option
[Re: rxinhed]
#1064602
10/04/13 03:38 AM
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I've seen buggies blast up really hills. If they think they don't top out, they risk flipping backwards. Keeping the gas on and grabbing one rear brake lever and like Russ says, they can turn nearly on a dime under the free tire. Points them back down the hill for another run.
Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand! Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu! FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com
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