So I have to be out of the house on sunday with the kids for a baby shower taking place. It's time to hit the trail again anyway, I'm open to suggestions. It would be good to do something fairly mild so the stock trucks can tag along but still fun and challenging. I was kinda thinking about hitting the Tucson area or even hitting up hackberry.

Might even be a good day to do the old superior to florence run. I had a blast on the trail that day. We could do that and then out through box canyon or even head up another direction depending on time.

OH CRAPS! STUFF CHANGED!

Dude have you ever driven here? HURRRR

Never been there. I'm in! I'll just follow the leader.

I've never been there either, but it looks like there is a black hardtop Wrangler (or a black SWB Montero?) parked at the end of the road there... so I think it's legal to drive there.

Also I found this road that connects Elephant Butte rd. with Hewitt Canyon rd, and it looks pretty badass....

Here I made a crappy video of scrolling around to it

Big huge 38mp image!

Stacey and I are going to camp out there I think starting Friday evening - we haven't picked a place yet. Are you just coming up Sunday? Where should we meet up?

I'm just plain too old to follow the crazy picture-map things you post. Whatever happened to plain old regular maps, heh? I mean the ones before you had to interpret those latitude and longitude number-things and you could just look at a dern picture of roads that had names on them.

Get off my lawn!

Slacks.

John B.

Maps? Who needs those. I just like to wing it.

Yes, Sunday only for me. I just plan to come up for the trailing thing.

Denim

Kevron

All right, because that extension of Elephant Butte road isn't very long, I think Stacey and I will camp out at the end of it (if we can) and then you can just meet us up there - then we can backtrack the short way down to Hardt Tank Road and take that up those wicked deep canyons to Mesquite Spring and depending how much time is left in our day take the fast way or the long way back to the highway from there.

Since I've never been up the Elephant's Butte, I don't know for sure if we can camp there so IF you can't meet us at the end of it HERE then we can meet in Queen Valley at I'm guessing the only business in the whole town, "Dining Room Cafe" - it's on the way so you would either see my Jeep or not.

What time would you want to meet up?

Because I have never been out there, I don't have any idea how rough or not rough the roads are. I don't even know for sure that they go through and there seems very little on the internet about them from a 4x4 perspective.
This is part of Elephant Butte road:



I found almost no credible images of the Hardt Tank road up through Campsite Springs and so forth...

This might be a credible image of the lower part of it

Based on satellite images and all that, I'm going to suggest that this is probably an OK run for stock 4x4 Monteros or any conventional 4x4 with decent ground clearance and all terrain tires. Rocks are sharp out here so if you're running half bald highway tires you probably should be prepared with spares, jacks and all that stuff.

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Let me know a time to meet you in Queen Valley IF we don't end up camping out at the end of Elephant Butte (at Coffee Flat Cyn.)

OK I will plan on being in queen valley at about 10am. That should give you time to wake up, pack and bail out to meet up with me in queen valley IF that's what you have to do. I can get up there earlier if you want also.

With that being said If anybody else would like to go. I can meet up with those people at between 9 and 9:15 at the (is it shell now) in gold canyon on the left hand side of the US 60 as your headed east towards superior.