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Re: inexpensive airtools [Re: fire4effect] #471721 07/04/04 05:07 AM
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Might do a price check at Costco's and hit up a couple pawns shops too. Might free up a couple bucks for accessories.


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Re: inexpensive airtools #471722 07/05/04 02:45 AM
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Thanks guys,

I think my first purchase will be a 3/8 rachet.For the rachets, do you need to buy special 'air' sockets or can I use regular sockets?

Sounds like I can't afford an good impact wrench at this time, but that will probably be my next purchase unless my next project needs something like a air chisel or griner...


I just use regular 1/2 inch drive Craftsman sockets, I've never broken one. If one were to break Sears will replace it for free anyway.


In my early 20's, I used regular sockets on air tools. The sockets never broke, but the 1/2" square input was hammered loose on both the socket and 1/2" extensions. This is my experience.
Also, don't necessarily believe that just because it uses air, it is more powerful than a quality Craftsman breaker bar, and a six point set of chrome sockets, or black-chrome air impact sockets, powered by man.
Too many jobs are too tough for a typical air tools found in the home. Air tools are good for medium size bolts where the benefit is SPEED not POWER. Removing tire lugs is an obvious application, however, tightening requires a hand tool!
IF I were limited to $150, I would get a CP (Chigago Pneumatic) or Ingersoll-Rand 1/2" drive impact tool. The whole idea here is BUY QUALITY-BUY AMERICAN. They are more efficient for the same PSI than a big sloppy package of tools in a Campbell Hausfield set at Wally World.
It seems the only thing I use my air compressor are:
1. Air sweeping the garage floor.
2. Filling tires
3. Removing wheel lug nuts.
4. Removing fill/drain plugs from my Toyota's diff. fill/drain plugs. It is nice and gentle application here.

Ya know, CH does make some decent tools, just at wally world they sell the $hitty ones, i have a hole set of all the CH tools, and i've got to say some of them are pretty nice (not ingersoll standard, but that's because ingersoll is the higher brand name for CH/Husky.

Oh, BTW, Campbell Hausfeld, Husky, and Ingersoll Rand airtools are made in the same factory. Just Ingersoll it the lexus and CH is the toyota... (well the higher end CH)... that bascially sums it up.


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Re: inexpensive airtools [Re: Greg_Canada] #471723 07/05/04 03:44 AM
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Yehaw!

Look at what I just got off eBay for $76!

It lists for $214 from Snap-On.

This thing will twist at 450 ft/lbs if I need it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...8942&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

You see, it is possible to get Quality air tools at cheap prices.

Re: inexpensive airtools #471724 07/05/04 02:54 PM
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Re: inexpensive airtools [Re: mt_goat] #471725 07/06/04 06:00 PM
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Another thing to consider is to keep any air tool oiled and do something to keep moisture out of the lines -- either a strainer and/or iron piping to get the moisture to condense out of the air.

A guy I knew always gave me grief for running hard lines -- said just running a hose directly from the compressor was so much easier. He seemed to go through air tools at a pretty good pace, though. He also was not too regular on putting those couple drops of oil into tools before use either. I figure one, the other, or both was his problem.

Re: inexpensive airtools [Re: Greg_Canada] #471726 07/06/04 10:04 PM
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(not ingersoll standard, but that's because ingersoll is the higher brand name for CH/Husky.

Oh, BTW, Campbell Hausfeld, Husky, and Ingersoll Rand airtools are made in the same factory. Just Ingersoll it the lexus and CH is the toyota... (well the higher end CH)... that bascially sums it up.


I assure you, you are completely wrong as to which brands are produced by Ingersoll-Rand. The IR name is NOT a "higher brand name" for CH or husky. IR makes IR branded tools, some of the Sears line(you can tell which ones because they look exactly the same as the IR 2131 etc), MAC air tools, and Snap-On air tools. They DO NOT MAKE Campbell Hausfield tools. They (IR) make a line of cheap chinese (or Korean) produced tools called "powerforce" by IR. These are what they are, cheap chinese air tools. You may get a good one, you may get a crappy one. Most likely a crappy one if you plan to use it for anything besides tinkering around. The quality control is basically non-existant for these off-shore produced tools. All of the other brand-names mentioned (IR line, Snap-on, MAC, Sears) are made in the Athens, PA facility that has been there since the days of the very early Railroads (which is how/why the impact wrench was invented) I can assure you I am correct on all of this, as I am head of the Metallurgical Lab for the Athens facility.


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Re: inexpensive airtools [Re: Jason_dup1] #471727 07/06/04 11:25 PM
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(not ingersoll standard, but that's because ingersoll is the higher brand name for CH/Husky.

Oh, BTW, Campbell Hausfeld, Husky, and Ingersoll Rand airtools are made in the same factory. Just Ingersoll it the lexus and CH is the toyota... (well the higher end CH)... that bascially sums it up.


I assure you, you are completely wrong as to which brands are produced by Ingersoll-Rand. The IR name is NOT a "higher brand name" for CH or husky. IR makes IR branded tools, some of the Sears line(you can tell which ones because they look exactly the same as the IR 2131 etc), MAC air tools, and Snap-On air tools. They DO NOT MAKE Campbell Hausfield tools. They (IR) make a line of cheap chinese (or Korean) produced tools called "powerforce" by IR. These are what they are, cheap chinese air tools. You may get a good one, you may get a crappy one. Most likely a crappy one if you plan to use it for anything besides tinkering around. The quality control is basically non-existant for these off-shore produced tools. All of the other brand-names mentioned (IR line, Snap-on, MAC, Sears) are made in the Athens, PA facility that has been there since the days of the very early Railroads (which is how/why the impact wrench was invented) I can assure you I am correct on all of this, as I am head of the Metallurgical Lab for the Athens facility.

Really? I was told they (campbell, husky, and IR) were all made in the same building. Hrm...


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Re: inexpensive airtools [Re: fire4effect] #471728 07/15/04 05:59 PM
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I work for CH (Campbell Hausfeld, Husky). I know there not the best tools, but i can get them really cheap if anyone is interested. My email is bilanbobby@hotmail.com
Check out chpower.com for a list of tools, i sell them for about half the price. thanks

Re: inexpensive airtools #471729 07/15/04 08:06 PM
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Re: inexpensive airtools [Re: John Smith] #471730 07/15/04 11:00 PM
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I got my Snap On impact today from the ebay seller.

The first thing I did was take it completely apart. It looked beautiful inside, no wear! I wiped it out and replaced the oil in the hammer section, then tested it. It twisted a 3/4" bolt in half!

Yes!

My 1/2" CH wouldn't even loosen the bolts on my lawn mover blades. This baby is gonna rock!

Best $76 I spent this month.

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