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Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
#495161
08/29/04 03:59 AM
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Just curious if anyone has ever tried to do this. How the body mounts line up.
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1987 4x4 X-cab - Factory Turbo
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
[Re: Ozy]
#495162
08/29/04 07:17 PM
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Are you sure you're asking the right question? My goal would be to fit a 1986 - 89 4runner onto an '84 - '85 frame. Which I'm told works quite nicely.
Are you trying to get IFS and rear coils under your 1st gen 4runner? I think they are totally differnt vehicles. -- Matt
'89 4runner SR5, 3.0, auto (fun) '93 xtra cab, dlx,3.0, 5spd (work truck)
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
[Re: matts]
#495163
08/29/04 09:00 PM
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if they're anything like trucks the frames should be similar
and why would you want to swap an '86-89 body onto an '84-85 frame? they're the same body <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
'79 sport 4x4 longbed <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> 20/22R hybrid with EB's OS valves, 268c cam, offy intake, weber 32/36, thorley header, 5 speed swap, 34" LTBs, downey 3" springs, marlin hysteer, 4.88s and locked
'91 4x4 shortbed 22R-E, W56, the dd!
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
[Re: kyle-22r]
#495164
08/29/04 10:19 PM
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if they're anything like trucks the frames should be similar
and why would you want to swap an '86-89 body onto an '84-85 frame? they're the same body <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> So I don't have to modify the frame to have leaf springs in front. The '84 - '85 frame rails are bent more relief to allow more space between the straight axle and the frame. The '86 - '88 frames are flatter (like 2wd frames) because the IFS doesn't need the same clearance. -- Matt
'89 4runner SR5, 3.0, auto (fun) '93 xtra cab, dlx,3.0, 5spd (work truck)
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
[Re: matts]
#495165
08/29/04 10:34 PM
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So I don't have to modify the frame to have leaf springs in front. The '84 - '85 frame rails are bent more relief to allow more space between the straight axle and the frame. The '86 - '88 frames are flatter (like 2wd frames) because the IFS doesn't need the same clearance. -- Matt
So the question remains, why? They're the same body. Find an 85 SR5 and you'll get all the fancy interior goodies. What am I missing here?
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
[Re: Ozy]
#495166
08/29/04 10:45 PM
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As soon as I made this post I had a feeling people would wonder why I was asking. I consider 84-89 to be 1st generation 4runners. 89 1/2 - 95 2nd generation. I have an 88 v6 with IFS (wife and kids daily driver) I was gonna sell it, and as soon as it went on the market the tranny went out. It's gonna cost bucks to fix so I was thinkin coil springs in the back and keep it for a while. Not a realistic swap though. I was really just wondering if it could be done w/out any welding(in case I come across a cheap donor vehicle some day.
Thanks guys <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
1987 4x4 X-cab - Factory Turbo
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
#495167
09/03/04 06:46 AM
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So the question remains, why? They're the same body. Find an 85 SR5 and you'll get all the fancy interior goodies. What am I missing here? Well, my idea is that there are not too many '85 4runners around, but there are '84-'85 frames (4runner, xcab and longbed) just sitting around in wrecking yards and going to the crushers that could be put under '86 - '89 4runner bodies. It's a lot easier and often cheaper to buy a '86-'89 4runner these days and they are usually in better shape and more likely to have upgrades like the SR5 package. More choices is better and Toyota wrench'n is fun -- Matt
'89 4runner SR5, 3.0, auto (fun) '93 xtra cab, dlx,3.0, 5spd (work truck)
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
#495168
09/04/04 11:32 PM
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Joined: Jan 2004
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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So I don't have to modify the frame to have leaf springs in front. The '84 - '85 frame rails are bent more relief to allow more space between the straight axle and the frame. The '86 - '88 frames are flatter (like 2wd frames) because the IFS doesn't need the same clearance. -- Matt
So the question remains, why? They're the same body. Find an 85 SR5 and you'll get all the fancy interior goodies. What am I missing here? I did it with my 87 Runner. The frame was rotting out behind the steering gearbox and the rest was looking rough but the body was pretty good yet. I found an 85 Runner that the body was pretty rough(not much of the floor left) but the frame was in good shape, The swap was real easy too <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
1987 4Runner SR5,SAS,6 inches of lift,35in BFG's,Welded Front,Detroit E-Z locker V-6 Rear, 5.29's
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Re: Will 1st Gen 4runner body fit 2nd gen frame?
[Re: ToyinAround]
#495169
09/05/04 04:53 AM
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The swap was real easy too <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" /> That's what we like to hear! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
'89 4runner SR5, 3.0, auto (fun) '93 xtra cab, dlx,3.0, 5spd (work truck)
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