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Found someonelse with same problem..no answer #500491 09/11/04 09:20 PM
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ddpromo1 Offline OP
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HI ALL,

I have a problem that I hope I can fix myself. Recently, when I turn on my A/C. There is water or some similar fluid that leaks on the floor on the passenger side of the car. It wets the carpet and floor only on that side. This only started within the past month and only happen when the A/C is turned on.. Any suggestions?? Thanks all....

PS What causes high idle?

Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: ddpromo1] #500492 09/12/04 06:56 AM
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Axe Man Offline
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Solution: the evaporator drain line is plugged. All A/C systems dehumidify as well as cool so the water collected by the evaporator has to drain off. The drain line is on the passenger side coming down out of the firewall. Normally you should see drips of water onto the pavement from that side if the drain is working. If no drip you'll have to get under there and see what's going on.

High idle? How high? When the A/C is on you'll see the idle boost up slightly, perhaps about 200 RPM but no more.


1998 Sportage - Gone.
2004 Honda Civic Coupe.
2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara - She got it.
Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: Axe Man] #500493 09/12/04 11:16 PM
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ddpromo1 Offline OP
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I appreciate the a/c tip. I think someone said the tubewas clogged before(how it gets clogged is beyond me?).

Also the high idle was pretty high and loud in neutral. I had to repair a vaccum hose that caused a low idle before but double checked it everything seems to be ok.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: ddpromo1] #500494 09/12/04 11:59 PM
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Axe Man Offline
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I appreciate the a/c tip. I think someone said the tubewas clogged before(how it gets clogged is beyond me?).


Dirt and bacteria can clog the drain tube.

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Also the high idle was pretty high and loud in neutral. I had to repair a vaccum hose that caused a low idle before but double checked it everything seems to be ok.

Any suggestions?


How high? What's the approx RPM reading? And is it all the time or intermittent?



1998 Sportage - Gone.
2004 Honda Civic Coupe.
2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara - She got it.
Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: Axe Man] #500495 09/13/04 01:27 PM
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wd8cdh Offline
Mudrunner
The tube could also be missing. Mine was after a shop (not the dealer) worked on the heater core. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


Ron Schroeder
Long Island NY
99 4DR auto Sportage, 30x950R15 tires, 3/4" strut spacer, rear air springs, Manual Hubs, FRONT Torsen LSD
00 Safari AWD, 2" lift, 30x9.50 tires, 4x4 conversion in progress
73 Pinzgauer Swiss Army troop carrier
Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: Axe Man] #500496 09/14/04 04:37 AM
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ddpromo1 Offline OP
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RPM's about 2-3 sitting still. Yes intermittenly

Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: ddpromo1] #500497 09/14/04 11:06 AM
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Axe Man Offline
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Intermittent high idle is a common problem. There are electrical wiring harness issues to the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor), IAC (Idle Air Control) valve, and Mass Airflow Sensor (MAF). The issue is not the sensors themselves. It is the electrical connectors TO the sensors. They develop corrosion and high resistance over time. The result is random CEL's (check engine lights) and the most common symptom where the engine idle suddenly and without warning jumps up to 1500 RPM or above.

The fix: There are two fixes. Fix 1: Unplug the connectors and clean them up as best you can and re-crimp them. You should be good to go...at least for a while. The problem will eventually come back. Fix 2: Unplug the electrical connectors and cut them off. Solder the wires directly to the TPS, IAC, and MAF. Yes, this is a drastic move. But guess what? It fixes the problem PERMANENTLY. I've done this on my Sportage and haven't had any wacko idle problems since.

The TPS is located on the throttle body where the aluminum intake bolts to it. The IAC is on that same intake roughly above the exhaust side of the engine. It has a connector that faces straight up. The MAF is between the air filter and rubber flex pipe up to the intake. The round plastic unit with an electrical connector on the backside.


Also, one other item to check. Make sure the ground wire between the battery tray and the intake manifold is corrosion free and tightly connected.


1998 Sportage - Gone.
2004 Honda Civic Coupe.
2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara - She got it.
Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: Axe Man] #500498 09/14/04 04:15 PM
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Nukeiridium Offline
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I'm gonna try Axe Man's soldering idea too. I had idle problems that went away for a while but have just recently come back. It's worth it to solder the 3 sensors if it fixes it for good.


2002 Sportage 4dr 4x4 soon to undergo an Extreme Makeover!
Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: Nukeiridium] #500499 09/14/04 05:19 PM
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Axe Man Offline
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I'm gonna try Axe Man's soldering idea too. I had idle problems that went away for a while but have just recently come back. It's worth it to solder the 3 sensors if it fixes it for good.


Before you do check out this thread....

http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showf...p;amp;o=365&fpart=1&vc=1

If I recall you have a 1996 Sportage. The IAC is different on the 1995 and 1996. Check it out before you start cutting wires.


1998 Sportage - Gone.
2004 Honda Civic Coupe.
2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara - She got it.
Re: Found someonelse with same problem..no answer [Re: Axe Man] #500500 09/15/04 08:10 PM
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ddpromo1 Offline OP
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Hats Off To Axeman! Even though I can't find any corrosion on connectors (of course, I maynot be looking at the same connectors), but this is a great forum for kia owners who like to do it yourself. At least here, I get answers and possiblities I can check vs other forums that people don't have a clue!

Thanks for your imput.

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