ive been reading posts here and on pirate about toy/d44 hybrids. everyone agrees the 44 gives a tighter turning radius, but nobody mentions how much tighter. turning radius is dependent on wheelbase so i guess my question is actually what turning angles will the knuckles allow?

I think the Spicer manual I have advertises that the D44 has a 40 degree turning radius. I don't know how that compares to a straight axle Toy or IFS, but my 44 turns quite a bit sharper than my IFS did even though the wheel base is a few inches longer. Its nice on the trail and in the parking lot. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Stock steering angle on the Toyota solid axle is 30 degrees.. I think most folks turn that down a bit to preserve their birfields.

On my front axle, with stock width and 33x9.50 tires, I had to run a 1/4" spacer to keep the tires off the springs at full lock. Now with the D60 outers, and the axle 3" wider, I still need to run 1/4" spacers to keep the tires off the springs. So that means I can cut the wheels in 1.5" farther than before. In fact I wish I would have shortened up the steering arms just a little more, as there is a bit of steering travel I can't quite use. I can usually turn at least as sharp as a shorter wheelbase Jeep on the trail.

thanks guys that was exactly the info i was looking for.