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Need Help! #529112 11/22/04 02:19 AM
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Raider_X Offline OP
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Ok, last week i was driving to work, and my raider died. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

The coil wasnt getting any spark so i decided to replace it, along with the coil to distibuter wire just to be safe. Well the coil still wasnt getting spart so i replaced the photo op sensor/ignition coil in the distributer and still no spark. Ive read about igniters on the 2.6 and i have the 3.0 is the igniter the little module next to the coil that says power unit. Ive run out of ideas and i really need your help.

Thanks.


RIP raider
Re: Need Help! [Re: Raider_X] #529113 11/22/04 06:25 PM
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off-roader Offline
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Raider_X,

Check your ECU for blown capacitors. No spark at the coil would lead me to beleive that's the problem. At this age, it's not too surprising. The capacitors can be replaced or you can replace the whole ECU. If you choose the ECU then your best bet is to find one at a local salvage yard (probably cheapest solution) and then replace the caps before they go bad.

Alternatively, someone on here may happen to have a spare ECU they can sell you.

There are mitsu ecu rebuilders out there also. Do a yahoo or google search.

HTH. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Need Help! [Re: off-roader] #529114 11/23/04 01:51 AM
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Raider_X Offline OP
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Ok, ill check that too, im still unsure about this module though... it comes out of the same wire loom that the coil does. Does anyone know what this is, before i buy another new part i dont need <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />

Thanks.


RIP raider
Re: Need Help! [Re: Raider_X] #529115 11/23/04 03:30 AM
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fasteddy Offline
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That square black box is the power transistor that makes/breaks the coil's ground path to trigger the spark like the points in an old Chevy Kettering ignition. There's a test for it to test the solid state switching function, some do do about either putting a voltage on the base or not and measuring the resistance (?????) of the N-P (or is it P-N?) junction. The power transistor is switched by ecu command, so if the ecu is not working, you get no spark....

My decision tree would be to test the function of the power transistor, and if bad, or if ecu error codes are flatline, have the ecu evaluated by one of the ecu rebuilders. If the failed capacitors didn't eat the board traces, it can be "re-capacitorized" and have the coating repaired, and work like new for relatively cheap, compared to (1) new factory - you could buy another truck for what it costs, or (2) boneyard ecu (and there's not much cross year compatibility), which may have the same failure just waiting to happen - the capacitor failure is probably going to hit most (over 50%, at least) ecu's somewhere along the way - design flaw - this a known short lived component.

Do a search on ECU repair, several documented here over the last two-three years, with links to repair shops who did (goood,ok,bad,you name it) work for people here. At the worst, a real shop can tell you up front, and probably free, if your ecu is buildable. If not, find a guaranteed rebuildable boneyard ecu and have it fixed. Car-part.com is your friend here. Search under "engine computer". My bet is one and a quarter will buy one...


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Re: Need Help! [Re: fasteddy] #529116 11/23/04 04:24 AM
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Raider_X Offline OP
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thanks off roader and fasteddy. Too bad you guys gave me news i didnt wanna hear. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

Ohh well, i need to get the thing back on the road, but workin on its a pain in the butt. its 25 miles away. Hopefully i can get i towed back over thanksgiving. Im sick of driving a 2 seater sports car everyday.


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