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Re: 2.8 won't crank at times? [Re: Jim_Paget] #590969 04/15/05 12:31 AM
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Body Damage is Cool
Mine seems to be fixed.After spraying 1/4 can of throttle body cleaner in there and a new air filter then running it for a bit , it fires up every time now.Today I also put in a new fuel filter , and it runs even better as the fuel filter I had was a little old , probably hasn't been changed in a few years.


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Re: 2.8 won't crank at times? #590970 04/15/05 03:15 PM
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Fujisawa_Rob Offline
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I'm having a similar problem. Runs terrible when cold, fine when warm. Today I tried connecting the diag terminals when running. SES light shows open loop (2 flashes/second) for a few minutes, then goes to closed loop (1 flash/second). The longer the duration of the flash, the richer the mixture and vice versa, by the way. I am wondering if you are a) Not running in open loop (and thus maybe EGR is open, etc). b) Or running poorly in open loop (like I am). Can you try this for purposes of comparison?


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Re: 2.8 won't crank at times? [Re: Fujisawa_Rob] #590971 04/15/05 03:16 PM
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Fujisawa_Rob Offline
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One more thing: The WOT condition is also Open Loop, so that may be why it "fixes" your hard starting.


2000 Mitsubishi Montero Endeavor, "Katsumi", 138k
1993 Toyota Tercel, backup vehicle, 93k
1989 Isuzu Trooper, "Beniko", R.I.P. at 233k

My 'Genuine Isuzu Parts' decals - for sale
Re: 2.8 won't crank at times? [Re: Fujisawa_Rob] #590972 04/19/05 02:19 AM
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I replaced the fuel filter tonight. I was unable to blow through the old one. The 5/16 neoprene gas lines were brittle so I replace that also. I can't believe the difference. I thought the 2.8 was underpowered before the new filter. It runs great now. I drove it around the block and waited 10 minutes and it started fine.
Thanks for everyone's tips and suggestions! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Re: 2.8 won't crank at times? [Re: Fujisawa_Rob] #590973 04/19/05 07:25 PM
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GKreamer Offline
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Happened to me this morning (haven't changed the fuel filter yet..): I was getting gas and I left the key in the on position with the engine off (by mistake, I just came out of the dentist's office and my mouth was still numb <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />= <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />). I filled up, hopped back in and turned the key- no start. I turned it one more time and nothing. Third time was the charm because I held the gas pedal down and it roared (OK, a little exaggeration <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />) to life.

That was the first time in a while that it did that.

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