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Fuel pump shut-off switch?
#595875
04/23/05 09:28 PM
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 70
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
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know this isn't a Van forum but being Chevy guys i'm hopeing you can help me out. My mom has a 2000 Astro AWD and the starter died yesterday so we tow it out to my place and R&R it and now it rolls over fine but no fire? Now the tow vehicle was a stick and and times the ride got pretty jerky and i'm wondering if anyone knows if these have a fuel cut-off switch? Thanks
1987 4Runner SR5,SAS,6 inches of lift,35in BFG's,Welded Front,Detroit E-Z locker V-6 Rear, 5.29's
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Re: Fuel pump shut-off switch?
[Re: ToyinAround]
#595876
04/28/05 12:43 PM
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Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 145
Wheeler
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check for spark, it sounds more like a fuse
90 wrangler 6 cyl. 97 honda passport 84 dodge longbed 4x4
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Re: Fuel pump shut-off switch?
[Re: ToyinAround]
#595877
04/30/05 03:49 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,332
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Wet distributors are very, very common on these. I see a rash of them every time it rains.
Pull the doghouse ( <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />sorry) and use a #20 torx to remove the distributor screws. I usually unplug the 3 plug wires on the driver's side too. Just make sure you mark them. The cap has cylinder numbers on it to make it easy.
If there is any sign of green or white powder, replace the cap and rotor. I cannot stress enough the importance of using AC Delco parts. I've never seen an aftermarket cap and rotor that worked for very long in this application.
Make sure you dry the inside of the distributor very well prior to re-assembly. I use brake cleaner to remove any moisture. Just be sure to give it enough time to evaporate before you put the cap/rotor back on. It could be exciting if you don't.
The rotor screws are #15 torx.
BTW, you may find that the inside of the cap is still wet when you get in there. That's not uncommon with this situation.
Distributor caps can fail internally too. If you don't find signs of moisture, pull the coil wire from the cap and check for spark. If it lights up real well then plug it back in and pull a plug wire at a plug. Probably #5 is the only one you can reach easily (driver's side, rear of engine). If no spark there, then the cap/rotor is still bad.
I forgot to tell you, it is customary to unplug the electrical connections to the coil or to the ignition module and crank the starter to make sure the rotor turns whenever you have the cap off for a no-start. Just be sure to plug everything back in.
If you have a fuel pressure gauge it wouldn't be a bad idea to check your fuel pressure when you have the doghouse off. It should be ~50-55 PSI when keyed on. The pump runs for 2 seconds at key on. Watch the guage for a couple minutes. It should hold a steady pressure even with the pump not running. If the pressure drop, let me know. There will be more to do there.
One more thing, don't think that you're immune to distributor moisture issues just because the cap/rotor are new (if they are). I've seen vans like yours come back on a hook the very next day with the same problem in spite of a brand new cap/rotor. Usually happens when aftermarket parts are used.
Let me know if you need any more help. I work at a GM shop as a drivability tech, so this is something I've encountered a number of times. I'd be glad to help.
1990 Montero RS (In pieces... for now)
KG6VNX
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Re: Fuel pump shut-off switch?
[Re: ToyinAround]
#595878
04/30/05 04:02 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
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I didn't fully read your post. If it wasn't raining when the van stopped working, then you may have something else going on. I didn't notice that thing about the starter.
There is a fuse panel just above and to the left of the battery. Pull the cover off and use a test light to see if there is good voltage to the terminals from the battery/alternator, etc. I don't remember exactly what's up there. If the battery was still connected when you replaced the starter, one of the fuseable links may be open. If this is the case, I can look up locations for you on Monday and let you know where to find them.
ECM-B is the fuse that supplies power to the fuel pump. If that one is blown, replace it and try to start it. If it still doesn't start, check the same fuse. If it's blown it's pretty much one of two things. 1, either you cause a short in the ECM-B circuit when you replaced the starter (not likely) or, 2, the rough ride on the back of the tow truck finished off an already marginal fuel pump module (not unlikely).
If the fuel pump is bad, I suggest using an aftermarket replacement. They are usually much cheaper and last as long if not longer than the OE part. Don't forget to replace the fuel filter at the same time. Plugged fuel filters kill fuel pumps.
1990 Montero RS (In pieces... for now)
KG6VNX
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