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Clutch Help.
#598924
05/02/05 06:06 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
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Hello everyone. I am in need of a clutch for my 4runner and I have a load of questions to ask. I was wondering what would be my best be in regards to brand, should I get OEM or should I go with something more extreme like centerforce? next question is this an easy process? Could I do it myself and does anyone have any tips to get it done right. Thanks for all the help! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
1994 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4
1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3.0L M/T 4X4 w/ Full OME Sus & 1-1/2"BJS
1993 Toyota Pickup 2.4L M/T
1999 Jeep XJ "Classic" 4.0L A/T 4X4
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Re: Clutch Help.
[Re: 1994Runner4X4]
#598925
05/02/05 04:55 PM
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Anonymous
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As for parts, I have recently rebuilt my 22RE and added a new clutch with many parts from http://all-foreign.com, whose customer service and pricing for OEM or better parts is unmatched. They sale the same timing chain kit that LC Engineering does at half the cost with metal guides. For OEM, you may check with them, I believe the whole clutch kit was $100 to $130 shipped. For daily use and midlevel off-roading, I believe the factory clutch is very good. Ease of work is not too bad if you have help or a transmission jack. My brother and I pulled my transmission and transfer case (bolted together) without much difficulty. I found ratchet straps and a regular floor jack to be very helpful. The ratchet straps are great because you can use them to support most of the trans and still wiggle it around so bolt holes and dowl pins line up. Thanks, James
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Re: Clutch Help.
#598926
05/02/05 06:35 PM
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One of the companies that advertizes here had the whole OEM clutch kit for around $200. It is an easy job to do , That is why I love manual transmissions, your are not at mercy of some jerk at AMCO. Remove the drive shaft, put a floor jack under the transmission then unbolt the transmission fron the engine and pull it back. The clutch asembly is bolted to the flywheel. As the other member mentioned make sure the transmission is well secured the floor jack. Some idiot that is no longer with us anymore thought he can lower the transmission by hand once it is pulled back and separated from the engine, well he is very flat chested now. Don't waist your money to buy super dooper things that you don't need they are there only to make good TV shows on Saturdays. If you want your clutch last a million miles don't rest your foot on the clutch pedal. Let me know if I can help <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5
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Re: Clutch Help.
[Re: fox74]
#598927
05/03/05 04:54 AM
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cool, thanks. I will let ya know, I am going to do it this weekend. Will a bottle jack work in place of the transmission jack? and is it hard to replace the ream main engine seal while I am there? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3.0L M/T 4X4 w/ Full OME Sus & 1-1/2"BJS
1993 Toyota Pickup 2.4L M/T
1999 Jeep XJ "Classic" 4.0L A/T 4X4
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Re: Clutch Help.
[Re: 1994Runner4X4]
#598928
05/03/05 05:43 AM
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RENT A TRANNY JACK AND USE RACHET STRAPS; it WILL try to roll on you. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />
Go to the 93 FSM sticky in the truck section and download the info you need. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />You'll also want some loctite for the flywheel bolts, and get the flywheel resurfaced, or you'll be back under there in about 4 months, if not sooner. Note which way your clutch plate is facing when you pull it out, or that'll put you back under there immediately.
Give yourself a day, depending on the turnaround time from the machine shop for the flywheel.
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Re: Clutch Help.
[Re: 1994Runner4X4]
#598929
05/03/05 05:43 PM
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Anonymous
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I would NOT use a bottle jack. A rollaround floor jack will be fine, you just need something that can move a little bit and remain steady. Not to say a tranny jack is not good advice, but if you don't have one and funds to rent one, it is not necessary.
When we removed and replaced my transmission (1989 4Runner 5spd), I used the ratchet straps to create a hanging support for the trans and transfer case. The ratchet strap was attached to the truck frame and I hung the trans assembly in it. The main benefit here was I was able to move the transmission around and adjust the angle of the face of the transmission either up or down and forward.
Important factor here, I had help via my brother. With two people, a floor jack and a couple GOOD ratchet straps, it is not that difficult to do. Worst part is getting to the two top bolts.
As another member said, be glad you have a manual tranny!
Thanks, James
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Re: Clutch Help.
[Re: kewlynx]
#598930
05/03/05 07:25 PM
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RENT A TRANNY JACK AND USE RACHET STRAPS; it WILL try to roll on you. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />
Go to the 93 FSM sticky in the truck section and download the info you need. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />You'll also want some loctite for the flywheel bolts, and get the flywheel resurfaced, or you'll be back under there in about 4 months, if not sooner. Note which way your clutch plate is facing when you pull it out, or that'll put you back under there immediately.
Give yourself a day, depending on the turnaround time from the machine shop for the flywheel. What is 93 "FSM sticky"?
1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3.0L M/T 4X4 w/ Full OME Sus & 1-1/2"BJS
1993 Toyota Pickup 2.4L M/T
1999 Jeep XJ "Classic" 4.0L A/T 4X4
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Re: Clutch Help.
[Re: 1994Runner4X4]
#598931
05/03/05 07:52 PM
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Re: Clutch Help.
[Re: 1994Runner4X4]
#598932
05/03/05 09:42 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
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Sorry for my abreviated description of how to do the clutch , I don't know your level of experience. I would advice strongly against using a bottle jack to lower the transmission due to lack of stability. Invest in a 2 1/2 ton floor jack if you are planning to work on your car, it come in handy all the time, Harborfrieght.com has good chinese jacks for under $30. To answer your second question regarding the rear crankshaft seal, This seal is normally replaced by taking the oil pan off, but some cars with one piece oil seal require removal of the flywheel. I am not sure about 4Runner. If you have a leak from the rear main then go ahead and change the seal while you have the clutch off. May be other member can answer your question but don't put things back together until the seal issue is addressed.
1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5
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