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1.6 roller rockers
#619554
06/27/05 12:04 AM
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Anyone ever considered installing 1.6 roller rockers on their Monty? I found a set that were for the Starion at a reasonable price and was wondering... 1) Would they work on the Monty head 2) Would it benefit from them
02 Ford F-250 4X4 PSD...zero body damage 67 Weimann 18' Jet boat...zero body damage except for the trailer drags on the ground from time to time
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Re: 1.6 roller rockers
[Re: Roll_me_over]
#619555
06/27/05 02:53 AM
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With a stock cam they will totaly mess up your valve timing, the exhaust valve opens way way early and the intake very late, like 28? late.
Your valve overlap will be very small and it will hurt your power. Also the radius of the wheel is less than the face of the slipper type rocker. This give you a nice lazy valve opening off the seat, exactly oposite of what you want to do.
Kevin
Last edited by Kevin C; 06/27/05 07:37 AM.
87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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Re: 1.6 roller rockers
[Re: Roll_me_over]
#619556
06/27/05 06:47 AM
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Ditto on the valve timing! I bought a set and have decided not to use them.
Great info on this site. Very useful. For the most part, believe what you read.
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Re: 1.6 roller rockers
[Re: Racer4]
#619557
06/27/05 02:28 PM
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what if you got the lunati cam?i have been thinking of that cam.
87 dodge power ram 50,35" tires,5 1/2" total lift,4.6 gears,lockers front and rear,Rancho RS5000's,custom front bumper,custom rock sliders,cct extended diff breathers,75 amp alt(40 amp stock),thorely header,K&N,wheeled hard...
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Re: 1.6 roller rockers
[Re: powerRam50]
#619558
06/27/05 03:32 PM
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The cam has to be specifcly ground for a 1.6 roller rocker. To get a 1.6 ratio compared to a 1.5 ratio you have to move the contact point where the rocker meets the cam.
When this happens it alters the cam timing. You could just have them put a V6 desing on the 4 cyl cam and that wll take care of the geometry problem. Or you could use the 2.0 roller rockers that have the 1.5 ratio.
If you use the 1.5 ratio you stll need a roller profile on the cam lobe to get the valve opening rates right. The roller has a much smaller radius and will open slower off the seat.
I have made measurments that back ths theory up and posted this on the starion board so people would understand what happens when you swap these rockers in.
You can get roller cams ground for the 1.5 rocker, though they tend to be performance cams woth more duration. Ask about them on the starion board.
Kevin
87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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Re: 1.6 roller rockers
[Re: Kevin C]
#619559
06/27/05 10:31 PM
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Sounds like to much involved to make it worth it...
02 Ford F-250 4X4 PSD...zero body damage 67 Weimann 18' Jet boat...zero body damage except for the trailer drags on the ground from time to time
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