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99 grand cherokee 4wd #620852 06/30/05 08:08 AM
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laughinwillow Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
(selec-trac) theres got to be someone on this planet that knows whats wrong! I've had my pimp(ette) ride for not quite a year now, a while back it started to act nuts after moving the 4wd out of 2 wheel. No matter if it was in 2 wheel 4part time or 4 full time .. if it was moved from 2wd it seemed to want to be stuck in part time. Riding rough ... whining loudly ... nearly refuses to take a sharp turn. (part time indicator dash light NOT on when the shifter is not in part time). I took it to one mechanic who told me nothing was wrong with it .. but i dont think he gave me enough credit to really take it for a drive or look inside too much because i got it back and it acted as usual - terrible. I took it a week later to a dealer mechanic, who replaced the whole transfer case. After getting it back, i shifted through the gears on a couple different occasions and it seemed fine. Until tonight, driving through a bad storm, i shifted into 4wd, and it started all over again. The only thing i know to relate to it is that i generally only use the 4wd in nasty weather, and right now, that's rain. Could it be electrical? If not not... what in the world...?!?!?

Now i lay me down to sleep,
i pray the lord my jeep to keep....

Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd [Re: laughinwillow] #620853 06/30/05 12:43 PM
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KCjeeper Offline
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I don't have a clue what a pimp(ette) ride is but is sounds like your 242 might have the linkage adjusted wrong. Does it act like it is locked when you are in 4FT? When you are offroad is it performing properly?


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Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd [Re: KCjeeper] #620854 06/30/05 05:45 PM
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laughinwillow Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
pimp(ette) ride is just my term of endearment for my spiffy jeep. you know, pimp rides, well i'm a chick ... hence the "ette".

anyhow, i haven't really had it off road i bought it to get me up the side of my mountain in the snow (formerly had a ford that did not like that idea). It will act fine until i move it out of 2wd. It seems to just be stuck in 4part time, the wheels lock up on sharp turns and it just plain sounds angry. i know that 4wd growls and hums, but ... not when the shifter says its in 2wd. it will act this way for 1 day or multiple days at a time (whatever its feeling like doing) and eventually just kick itself out, until i shift it out of 2wd again. thanks for your help, this is soooo aggrivating!

Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd [Re: laughinwillow] #620855 06/30/05 10:15 PM
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I agree with KC, have the linkage checked and adjsuted, and have the motor and tranny mounts checked and adjusted. It might help if you whip it hard back and forth between 4 and 2 sometimes the extra jostle will move it that extra hair.

Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd #620856 07/01/05 07:56 AM
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laughinwillow Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
i definetly will! unfortunetly i'm pretty sure i'm tearing things up along the way here, its making worse noises than before it was "fixed" the first time, rides way more rough,turning is harder and harder, and the rear end is getting TOO hot. once better they can't see it again till next week ... thanks guys! at least i have something go on.

Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd [Re: laughinwillow] #620857 07/01/05 05:31 PM
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laughinwillow Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
i realised i didn't answer you on something that i guess might make a difference. Yes it does act like it's still in part time when the shifter is in full time. when it acts like this it seems i have to just wait until its ready to kick itself out. will try whipping the shifter today!

Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd [Re: laughinwillow] #620858 07/03/05 11:27 AM
Anonymous
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Just so you know.. Or incase you dont.. You should never go over 35 in parttime.. IF you have been doing that you are killing your t case..

For normal everyday driving in 4 you want 4 fulltime..

Anyway.. Tell us about how you are shifting in and out of 4..

Should be rolling under 5mph put tranny in N then pull the shifter into 4.. Same for going back.. Rolling tranny in N push up into 2 and resume..

If you are doing it that way get someone at the shop to adjust your linkage ..Or I can tell you how to do it yourself..

Its pretty easy and its almost certainly your problem..

Good luck..

Carl

Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd #620859 07/03/05 05:33 PM
Anonymous
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You can go well above 35 in part time hi without doing any damage to the t-case, assumeing you are on dirt or some other low traction surface. The only differnce between part time hi and full time is the t-case is locked.

Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd #620860 07/03/05 07:20 PM
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Fred Blackstone Offline
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Swampy, you must be talking about shifting from 4WD high to 4WD low; shifting between 2WD and 4WD part-time or full-time can be done on the "fly"! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


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Re: 99 grand cherokee 4wd [Re: Fred Blackstone] #620861 07/03/05 08:44 PM
Anonymous
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I guess I was misunderstood... I did mean no going over 35 on DRY GROUND.. and no you absolutly cannot shift the 242 on the fly.. IF you go from open 2WD to locked 4 part time (which is the first selection ) at speeds you will do damage to something .. Part time is exactly that.. Designed to be used Only PART of the time.. IF you are driving normally down the road you should be in Full time..

And one other thing that noone else has toched on.. Are all of your tires the same size and same brand.. Different Manufacturers sometimes have varience in tires sizes. Even though they may both be 225/70 or whatever if they are different manufacturer they may be different size..

This matters when you are in 4 Part time because the front and rear driveshafts are locked and turn at the same time.. Different size tires will cause a bind..

Here is a Techservice bulliten that came in to my shop some time ago about the 242 T case...Its actually a very common problem because lots of people only buy 2 tires at a time and with worn tires on one axle and brand new Different manufacturer tire on another you get a similar problem..

Pay special attention to number 4........

Carl
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1. Before attempting any diagnostic work or trouble shooting on the transfer cases, make sure that the tire pressures and circumference are all the same. Do not just compare tire sidewall labels; you must measure each tire around the center of the tread. A stagger gauge (RSG Part # 910-82017) will let you do this with the vehicle on the ground in 5 minutes. The tires must match in size to ?ö (.250), outside circumference, if they do not sell the customer on a new set of tires and measure them again. Mismatched tire sizes and pressures will fail the differential in these units very quickly and will cause the unit to be unable to shift out of 4 wheel drive back to 2 wheel drive.



2. Transfer case will not release from 4WD even when shift lever is put into 2WD- this is caused by the unit getting spline locked internally due to mismatched tire sizes or pressure. The unit will release if run on a lift because the wheels are not turning on the ground and tire size does not matter if all 4 wheels are in the air. Measure the tires with a tape around the middle of the tread or a stagger gauge and make sure they are all within ?ö (.250) and make sure all tire pressures are equal. Do not remove the unit for this problem; you will only waste your valuable time.



3. Transfer case will not shift standing still- this is normal and correct. The shift fork is spring loaded and the front and rear tires must be moving at the same speed in order for the unit to shift.



4. Proper operation in the different ranges- Make the customer aware that this unit can be operated in the fulltime position on any surface, wet or dry pavement. Part-time and Low must only be used in mud, deep snow, or sand.

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