well, if you don't want em, I'll take em <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Are you sure that is a 60? From that last picture it looks mighty strange to me...
From the looks of what you have I would say that you should not pay more than a gran for those axle. I got both of mine for that and the rear came with a detroit int it.

Later,
Daniel

Oh yeah the rear axle is a 14 bolt for sure and it still has them big heavy drum brakes not to good.

Later,
Daniel

Smiley, I think you've been dupped! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> My bets are thats a D44 (or 10-bolt), and not a 60.

Looking at the tube size and the ujoint size of your closeup pict, things are a bit small. Another good give away is the passenger side ubolts. Cheyv D60's use two studs in the top of the housing rather than an inner ubolt. Also, those are definitely ball joint knuckles. Even though there are D60's with balljoints, these are more popular on the Ford drivers side drop axles, not the Chevys. Thats looks like a standard stock D44 Chevy steering arm to me, with the D44 arm bolt pattern. if its 8-lug, my guess is you're looking at a basic 3/4-ton Chevy D44.

The rear is most definitely a 14bff.

If it was me, I wouldn't pay more than about $300-400 tops for the pair of those axles.

-Rob

that is what I thought to Rob. I think that guy got lucky or never had it out on the trail with those 42's. Smiley run not walk away for this. Unles you want a 44 up front. Which in that case go with the prise that Rob gave you.

Later,
Daniel

* And the winner isà

MEààà for having friends like you guys, whoÆll steer me in the right direction <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />




When the time finally comes for my SAS, I already have First Dibs on a D-44 out of a local Wagoneer û so itÆs not like my heart is broken over this.


But apparently I really need to improve my axle identification skills! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />




Given what IÆve learned - it looks like I need to have a little talk with my friend Paul, and (*politely*) inform him that his desired figure for the whole rig is perhaps a wee-bit steep.

I didnÆt get to see him when I was there yesterday, checking on the gear ratio - but hopefully, when I do see him - after informing him that the front isnÆt a D-60, and that the gear ratio is just 4.10 (and possibly so is the rear), maybe heÆll budge from his asking price of 2-Grand.


And I think IÆd also better tell him û if he should choose to build this thing up û that IÆm probably in-over-my-head à Honestly, I would really feel a whole lot more comfortable if I learned how to do a cross-over steering conversion on *my* rig, rather than on someone elseÆs û especially one thatÆs just gonna end-up being sold (and potentially without even doing any field testing to get the kinks worked-out! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" /> )

I really donÆt want to be responsible (not even partly!) for someone else ending-up getting stuck with a bunch of mechanical problems û or worse. --- At least if itÆs on mine IÆll know the risks upfront - and I wonÆt be endangering anyone but me.



Thanks all! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Smiley

Basically Smiley, that truck would have a long way to come to be a reliable trail rig. To me, it looks like the many street queens and mall runners we have around here in NC. The steering and the D44 can work those 42's on the street, but you're not even going to come close for mild trail abuse. I'd wager the fender clearance would also be a problem once you start articulating the 42's. The toyota motor probably doesn't care too much for those tires under 4.10's either. Again, this thing more screams booty fab pavement pounder than abandoned trail project to me.

-Rob

Yup I second this I had a Dodge D-60 in my yard and the ubolts for the pumpkin side had studs nearest the cover.

Not that it really matters, but just for the record - It's a Mazda, and it has NO motor, trans, or T-case in it at all.


Paul has a couple of motor & trans combos available to drop into it (a SBC 350 + 700R4 -or- a Dodge 383 + I-don't-know-what), as well as a few T-cases to choose from. --- The area surrounding his workshop boasts quite a collection of spare parts and components, of practically every variety.

And please donÆt misunderstandà Paul is a very good mechanic û But the key problem (as I see it) is that he has basically no experience in building a legitimate trail-worthy 4x4. --- The extent of his knowledge in that department is that, several years ago, he helped a mutual friend of ours (Steve) in building a ômini-monsterö Dodge û but Steve was the lead dog on the project, and they booty-fabed the heck out of that one; including the use of a stacked fourteen leaf rear spring pack! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> --- I drove the thing once after it was ôfinishedö, and let me tell ya û thereÆs NO WAY that it could have articulated more than a couple of inches - it was so absurdly stiff that you could have driven over a Dime and been able to tell if it was facing heads or tails! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />



* And here's a little Isuzu-related detourà

Steve now has a relatively nice (but nearly stock) 1967 Jeep that he thinks is virtually invincible (although it hasnÆt even been out of his garage in years). --- IÆve driven that one too, and while itÆs a nicely preserved vehicle, trust me; it ainÆt æall thatÆ.

Anyway - recently SteveÆs been teasing and goading his older brother, Lee; saying that his Jeep can run circles around LeeÆs newly acquired Isuzu Trooper (known around here as The Mule). --- Personally, I canÆt wait for Lee to get a set of M/Ts, so that the two of them can go out and play a little game of follow the leader - and maybe humble SteveÆs smug superiority complex a bit in the bargain.



* Getting back On-Topicà

Not to worryà After I inform Paul about what IÆve learned here (including the major shortcomings of the current steering set-up), IÆm going to step back and let him do whatever he wants with the information.



I thank you all very, VERY much for your help and advice on this one! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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i won't take em then <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />