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Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: strawmyers] #672067 12/01/05 01:02 AM
Anonymous
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Excellent point Sean, hadn't even considered the snow effect. Tough enough traveling on 69 up to Angola with the wide open spaces and snow blowing like the devil <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />. I like challenges and all but not with semis all around me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

Re: 12 bolt locker options #672068 12/01/05 04:40 AM
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Sc0rp10n Offline
Body Damage is Cool
I almost went the welded route with my past Amigo when we had the welder on hand for my jeep project, then I remembered last winter......(remembering).....and decided not dieing in a ball of flames on the side of a snowy road was the better route to go. So instead I think we just fixed my rear bumper <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I hate to hijack, but I would love to see a picture of your Amigo, your sig intrigues me.

Man I want my Amigo back....wonder if the kid would tade me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Good Luck with whatever direction you go.


Nick <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />



2000 XJ Classic - Classically a POS
1994 Isuzu Amigo XS -Sold
1972/3 CJ5 Glass body, 5" lift 34's. 5 years of work coming to an end.
Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: Sc0rp10n] #672069 12/01/05 07:29 PM
Anonymous
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Scorpion,
It seems like its pretty difficult to post a picture so I'll send you one as a pm.

John

Crap, can't do that either. I'll get it figured out this evening.

Last edited by vaquero; 12/01/05 07:32 PM.
Re: 12 bolt locker options #672070 12/01/05 09:11 PM
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Sc0rp10n Offline
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Sounds good, you want you can email it to me.

ndurost[AT]adelphia.net


Nick



2000 XJ Classic - Classically a POS
1994 Isuzu Amigo XS -Sold
1972/3 CJ5 Glass body, 5" lift 34's. 5 years of work coming to an end.
Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: strawmyers] #672071 12/01/05 09:38 PM
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ShowMeDave Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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One thing people recommending a welded diff for a DD need to consider is that we get a lot of snow up here during the winter. I drove around one snowy winter day with my ARB locked in and let me tell you, it wasn't fun <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> Open diffs are nice in the snow because the 'useless' tire acts as an anchor to keep your truck pointing in one direction. You get both rear tires spinning and rotational torque is much more likely to make the back end try to pass the front... especially in a short wheelbase truck, especially going around turns. IMHO, for a DD 12bolt get an ARB or just leave it open if you live around these parts.


OK, here's my two cents on the matter... If road conditions are bad enough that a welded rear diff would make driving hazardous, I would think that a person would be driving in four wheel drive anyway. With the front pulling(as well as the rear)... I see that as doing basically the same thing as the "anchor" action that Sean spoke of. Have you ever tried "cutting donuts" while in 4WD?? It's just about impossible. My rear diff has been welded for several years and I have driven to work(40+ miles) several times in slick conditions. I had absolutely NO problems. Well other than being late for work after stopping to pull several people out of the ditch. In my experience, I did not(and do not) see the welded diff to be a problem. YMMV.


David
?'90 Trooper?2.6L?Auto?DELTA Cam?AMC Head?"DN" Lift?SlakAzz Sliderzz
?TrXus M/T's?Black Rockcrawlers?Lockers by MIG & ARB?ProComp ES9000's
?Pics and junk...Thx Tad!!
Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: ShowMeDave] #672072 12/01/05 10:06 PM
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I have to agree...I don't think that road driving with a locked or welded rear diff in the snow is all that different than driving with a limited-slip rear diff, which I have done many, many times. In fact my Tahoe has a LSD. You have to be aware that the rear will kick out easily in 2WD, but in 4WD it isn't an issue at all.


Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
Serenity now!
Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: BigSwede] #672073 12/01/05 10:42 PM
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zupertrooper Offline
Wheeler
IMHO... go ARB. You will love it, and the 'migo will too <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> We've had a few snowy winters here, nothing like you guys get, but still, the ARB performed nicely on both the snow and ice covered roads. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> (we have to pull all the Jeeps out, He He!) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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E888

'94 ARB ZuperTrooper 33" MTR's, Tera lows, air lockers,etc...etc...etc...http://community.webshots.com/user/brazil1616
Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: BigSwede] #672074 12/01/05 10:48 PM
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Rodeo Guy Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Yah I didn't think it was too bad in the snow, even in 2wd. It will drift around corners, but its pretty predictable. The biggest problem I had was my lockright would lock up when I braked hard and try to wiggle the rear end around. But it was controllable.


Mike

"Damn the carnage! Full throttle ahead!"

95.5 rodeo, 37" Trxus MT, dana 44/9", coil-overs, lockers..... http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/550454
Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: zupertrooper] #672075 12/01/05 10:52 PM
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ShowMeDave Offline
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IMHO... go ARB. .......


If money were no object...YADA YADA YADA.


David
?'90 Trooper?2.6L?Auto?DELTA Cam?AMC Head?"DN" Lift?SlakAzz Sliderzz
?TrXus M/T's?Black Rockcrawlers?Lockers by MIG & ARB?ProComp ES9000's
?Pics and junk...Thx Tad!!
Re: 12 bolt locker options [Re: ShowMeDave] #672076 12/02/05 02:47 AM
Anonymous
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Thanks everyone for weighing in, interesting points all and definetely appreciated, the bottom line though is a viable alternative to the $800 arb with the need for an additional $100 compressor. I have experienced the "fun" of my limited slip in my SS locking up on slick roads and trying to pass my front end (serious pucker factor) I can see how having the front end locked in and in 4wd would negate that effect, although with a large amount of highway driving the majority of the time it isn't really the snow that gets you it is driving along at 5 in the am along the highway and going over the overpass and hitting black ice, with a welded rear end and a short wheel base like an Amigo it seems like it would be a heck of a spin. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

John

Last edited by vaquero; 12/02/05 01:12 PM.
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