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No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? #673866 12/05/05 04:29 PM
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COTrooper Offline OP
Mudrunner
When I tried to start my truck this morning so that I could get to work, it would not start at all. Because we had a pretty cold night here in Denver, I wondered it it might be the battery - I'm guessing not, though, since the windows, locks, stereo, and HVAC controls all still work. I did still get a click when I turned the key, though. I also noticed that it started *a little* harder recently after sitting outside during a cold night.

Keeping in mind that I'm a novice mechanic, can anyone give me some ideas? Places to start trouble shooting?

FWIW, I put a lot of miles on it yesterday and it worked fine all day.


'98 Rodeo, Ranchos, OME 912s, General Grabber AT2 265/70/16s on steelies, Superwinch hubs, G80 code, Pioneer HU... two car seats and cracker crumbs.
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Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? [Re: COTrooper] #673867 12/05/05 04:47 PM
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First, check your battery connections, at both ends of each cable. Take them off, and clean them if there is any gunk in there. If there is any sign of a problem, get a jump start and see if the problem persists (indicating a weak battery or such). It might be fine though, now that the connections are good.

If there is no sign of corrosion or loose connection, then the battery is the next suspect. Get a jump and take it to an auto parts store that tests batteries (most of the major ones do). Pick one that sells batteries at a good price <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

If that still checks out good...get back to us.


Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
Serenity now!
Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? [Re: BigSwede] #673868 12/05/05 05:08 PM
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First, check your battery connections, at both ends of each cable. Take them off, and clean them if there is any gunk in there.


Already did that and saw no problem. The connections are absolutely clean and the battery was new when I bought the truck (with only 49,000 miles on it) in July. In fact, I figured that the battery was probably ok because all the accessories were still working. I guess, though, that it's possible that it had enough juice to run the CD player, but not start the motor, huh?

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If there is any sign of a problem, get a jump start and see if the problem persists (indicating a weak battery or such). It might be fine though, now that the connections are good.


I would have tried to jump it off my wife's CR-V, but she had to take my daughter to school. I have pulled the battery and will take it to the shop next to my wife's place of business to see if they can test it. I just have this feeling that it probably is the battery and I jumped the gun posting this. I'll let ya know...

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If that still checks out good...get back to us.


Not to worry, mi amigo... not to worry. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


'98 Rodeo, Ranchos, OME 912s, General Grabber AT2 265/70/16s on steelies, Superwinch hubs, G80 code, Pioneer HU... two car seats and cracker crumbs.
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Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? [Re: COTrooper] #673869 12/05/05 05:28 PM
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96TrooperSE Offline
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I wondered it it might be the battery - I'm guessing not, though, since the windows, locks, stereo, and HVAC controls all still work. I did still get a click when I turned the key, though. I also noticed that it started *a little* harder recently after sitting outside during a cold night.


Even if all the accessories work the battery still may be bad. It takes a lot of work to start an engine. Top the battery off with distilled water and charge it. Then have it tested again.


/1996 Trooper SE\
OME 912's w/2.5" spacers, Superwinch hubs, 265/75R16 Yokohama Geolanders (street), 34x10.50x15 Super Swamper LTB's, Indy4x HD Tie Rods, Indy4x Rock Sliders
Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? - It's running now. [Re: 96TrooperSE] #673870 12/05/05 08:39 PM
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You'll have to pardon me - I'm a little embarrassed now...

Took the battery to a local parts store and they tested it for me. They tried to charge it twice and it wouldn't charge either time. So, there's a new Duralast battery under the hood and everything appears to be working fine now.

I guess since I used one of my sick days and have the rest of the day off, I might as well Seafoam it and change the oil, eh?

Thanks for your help, guys. I feel like Chicken Little now - a post for what amounted to nothing, really. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Sorry.


'98 Rodeo, Ranchos, OME 912s, General Grabber AT2 265/70/16s on steelies, Superwinch hubs, G80 code, Pioneer HU... two car seats and cracker crumbs.
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Illegitimus non carborundum.
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Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? - It's running now. [Re: COTrooper] #673871 12/05/05 11:17 PM
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BigSwede Offline
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Heh, last month my DD battery seemingly went out while it was sitting in the driveway...at least I wasn't stranded away from home. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />


Steve Carlson - 95 Trooper LS expo rig
Serenity now!
Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? UPDATED 1/5 [Re: BigSwede] #673872 01/05/06 04:23 PM
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Ok, the problem is back. Same scenario, but with a 1-month-old battery; the truck sat outside overnight, I got in, tried to start it. Nothing. No click, no sound of an engine struggling to turn over.

I'm guessing that the alternator is bad, but I'd like to hear some input from the rest of you. I'll remove the battery this afternoon and get it charged. I guess that while I'm at the parts store, I'll check out the cost of a new alternator, too.


'98 Rodeo, Ranchos, OME 912s, General Grabber AT2 265/70/16s on steelies, Superwinch hubs, G80 code, Pioneer HU... two car seats and cracker crumbs.
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Illegitimus non carborundum.
Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis.
Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? UPDATED 1/5 [Re: COTrooper] #673873 01/06/06 03:57 AM
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Mudrunner
Just had the battery tested and it's fine. Might it be the starter? That could explain why nothing happens when I turn the key from accessory to on, right? Or would that be the ignition switch? Any ideas? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


'98 Rodeo, Ranchos, OME 912s, General Grabber AT2 265/70/16s on steelies, Superwinch hubs, G80 code, Pioneer HU... two car seats and cracker crumbs.
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Illegitimus non carborundum.
Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis.
Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? UPDATED 1/5 [Re: COTrooper] #673874 01/06/06 05:52 AM
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Jeff Mason Offline
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Manual tranny - have you checked the clutch interlock to make sure it is working? Only other thing I can think of other than the alternator would be to check the battery cables to make sure there is no corrosion built up on them or even underneath the cable right by the cable end. Also, would be worth the time to check and make sure the ground cable is actually well-grounded and the other wires that are on the starter are firmly attached.

Other than that, checker and autozone (and Pepboys) all have equipment that they can use to test your alternator and your starter, too (IIRC). You might have to remove it and take it in though.

If you are having problems, and need some help, give a shout here or on the Trailseeker board and see if someone can help.


Jeff Mason

Whatever makes you upset in someone else...also exists in you
Re: No start - 1998 Isuzu Rodeo manual 4x4 - any ideas? UPDATED 1/5 [Re: Jeff Mason] #673875 01/06/06 07:49 AM
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Manual tranny - have you checked the clutch interlock to make sure it is working?


Wouldn't even pretend to begin to know how to do that. What exactly would I be looking for? Where is it? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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Only other thing I can think of other than the alternator would be to check the battery cables to make sure there is no corrosion built up on them or even underneath the cable right by the cable end.


Checked all that last month when I replaced the battery, then didn't drive it much over the holidays. I wouldn't imagine that it could have changed that much.

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Also, would be worth the time to check and make sure the ground cable is actually well-grounded and the other wires that are on the starter are firmly attached.


I'll have to crawl under it tomorrow and see if I can do that. Where is the starter on this motor? I could find it with my eyes closed on my old 2.6 Trooper, but I don't have a clue yet about the workings of this motor.

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Other than that, checker and autozone (and Pepboys) all have equipment that they can use to test your alternator and your starter, too (IIRC). You might have to remove it and take it in though.['quote]

I plan to take it to one of those places if I can get it moving tomorrow. With any luck, I can push start it and drive it to one of those shops. Hopefully they can tell me what's wrong, then I can get the parts and take it to a friend of mine who works at a garage.

[quote]If you are having problems, and need some help, give a shout here or on the Trailseeker board and see if someone can help.


Will do. Thanks. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


'98 Rodeo, Ranchos, OME 912s, General Grabber AT2 265/70/16s on steelies, Superwinch hubs, G80 code, Pioneer HU... two car seats and cracker crumbs.
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