Ok i have a 1989 toyota pickup 3.0 v6. It has 205,000 miles and i have factory 4.10 gears and im running 33x12.5 remington mud brutes. It currentky has torsion bar crank 2" blocks in rear and a 3" body lift. I have a 4" trailmaster which i will soon be installing and getting some 36x12.50 tsls or q-78 tsls. I was wandering how will it hold up for a few months without gearing lower? I have planed on getting 5.29 gears to bring me close to the near stock range. another question is what to expect to pay for labor on a gear swap. I would do it , but i dont have the tools to set pinion depth and backlash. any help is apreciated.

PM ZUK if he dosen't see this thread, he's the R&P guru <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

ya maxxis, 529 gears are pretty friendly with a 36" tire.
As to how your 410 gears will hold up to a 36.....probably ok....minimize the slippage from the stop lights and it will hold up.
Gear install prices vary quite a bit.....100~150 seems common. See my website for more info. ZUK

I drove my runner daily for two months on 4.10s and an open front diff with 36x12.50s after my solid axle conversion.

You won't kill it. Really, it'll just be agonizingly slow (just picture your rig now, but with a stop behind the gas pedal preventing more than 3/4 throttle) and you'll only use 5th gear going downhill on the interstate with a 20MPH tail wind while drafting an 18 wheeler.

I then dropped in two 5.29 diffs with a pair of lockers all at once. Something no one tells you is how MINOR the gearing change is. Your shift points move closer to stock and you get 5th gear back... but it's not like you gained 20 HP and it crawls like a champ offroad. Heck, offroad it's barely noticeable. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

[EDIT:] Forgot to mention that I recently discovered that my 4runner DIDNT have 4.10s stock. It was a 22RE with the 31" tire package, so it had 4.56s. It was marginal. I also think that that's why people brag on the huge improvement with 5.29s that I didn't really notice. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

People don't mention it much, but if you had an auto factory you have 4.56s or 4.88 usually... 31" tire pacakge got 4.56s installed on a lot of 5-speed rigs on these forums that people probably don't even know they have. Like me, for instance. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

And with what ZUK said, 100-150 per diff is pretty much standard.

If you were up north in LA where it made sense, I'd tell you to haul your junk up here and do both diffs for $150. But that's a buddy/side-work price... not what you'll get from a 4WD shop.

$300-500 labor a diff. is common around here. idk why you guys prices are so cheap. my friend owns a local offroad shop around here so i get them for really cheap. but my friend got quoted $1200 for front and rear gears, parts and labor, on a 1999 tj. they will do it a lot cheaper if hand them the third member or axle out of the truck.

I think $150 per diff is for toyota or 9", where you can bring in an open carrier.
In the tj's with dana axles, there is alot more work involced changing the gears (you have to do it in the truck, unlike on a bench like toyoat) or you can take the whole axle out...
that's why it;s cheaper to work on toyota 3rd's (they're removable)

I paid $250 to have both my diff's setup with a soild spacer in the rear.
However you get what you pay for.
I had to pull my rear diff due to really really bad backlash from them not setting the rear diff up properly.
They claimed it was from the front pinion bearing shims falling out of place from me changing the front driveshaft flange.
My backlash sucked to begin with after the inital 500 mile break in.
It sucked even more after I changed the leaking grooved differential flange. However I think they didn't put a soild spacer in to begin with and that's why.

I spent $75 for a junkyard 4.10 diff to throw in temporarly and a 4 week wait without my rear 5.29 diff which I just now got back on friday.
I do know now it has a soild spacer in it because I stopped by to check on the progress. They were installing the soild spacer which looked brand new and they claimed they needed to order some new shims for it but whatever sounded kinda shady to me....