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i heard something about this on a news commercial the other day, but wasn't fortunate enough to see any of the cartoons...but thanks for bringing it to the board! Guy has a point on this, don't agree with the superbowl (hell i know so many people who endure the football just for commercials)...
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A fine article on the topic, from a Muslim, worth reading:
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Bookmark the site.

Great, no problem. If these guys ( or the Islamo-facist terrorists) do not represent the majority of Muslims, then how come the majority of Muslims aren't standing up and doing something about it? To just sit idly by ( that's what's been happening for the most part ) while this small group of extremists drags their religion down into the gutter...that just baffles me. You say they don't represent you? PROVE IT...

I am not anti-Muslim. Honestly. The other thread about " dem, repub, or S. repub." that was just kidding around. I may not agree with their beliefs, just like folks don't agree with mine. But how much longer can this go on? Even the FRENCH are getting bent. If Muslims as a whole do not want to be perceived as terrorists and murderers, then MUSLIMS have to do something about it. Not just sit and say " oh gee, they don't represent all of us..."

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The majority of Christians weren't standing up against the IRA when they were using car bombs (or more recently robbing banks) in Ireland. Does that mean that they don't exist? Or simply that they do not care?

Look who gets the press coverage in the "Christian" world. Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell? These people don't represent my views, but it seems like everywhere in the world the squeeky wheel gets the grease (or attention in this case).

Even if they are peaceful, I imagine that many moderate Muslins sympathize with the demonstrators (more than with the West, which they still may vilify or fear) or are simply too busy putting food on the table to be concerned about those events. I can certainly think of parallels in our own country.

why should some guy in, say, indonesia, have to defend himself based on the actions of some guy in, say, syria?

remember, we are talking about tens of thousands of muslims out of a total world population of over a billion.

should you, as a chistian, have to defend yourself because of the actions of the "christian identity" movement...or militant serbs...or joseph kony and the lords resistance army...or eric rudolph...or the KKK...or even pat robertson?

should you have to proactively convince the rest of the world that these people do not represent your views and that you are not a terrorist just because they are?

(btw, this whole thing is about way more than a few cartoons...)

I don't recall that happening in the name of Jesus. Am I wrong about that?



True, but is there not a difference between making a fool out of yourself on TV ( as both do ) and committing murder?

well, pat roberston did call for the assasination of a democratically elected leader of a sovereign nation. i imagine if a muslim leader got up on TV and called for the assassination of george bush, he would be labeled a terrorist. so why should pat robertson not be considered a terrorist?

I didn't say anything about some guy in indonesia definding himself. But why wouldn't he defend his belief system?


Once again, I don't see it as defending myself, personally, but yes, if folks began to think that's how all Christians feel, heck yes I'd stand up and say " no, that's not what my beleifs are". Is that bad?



IF the rest of the world was beginning to beleive that, then yes I would. I'll do it now. I am not a terrorist. I do not share the beleifs of the radicals you name. If a group of radical athiests were claiming that all Christians needed to die, what would you do?



You are absolutely correct. This is about a small group of militant people highjacking an entire religion in an effort to get their political agenda advanced. And all the rest of the followers of said religion are standing by and letting it happen. Does that not seem odd to you?

Go right ahead. If the shoe fits...

Pat Robertson does not represent the views of all Christians,as many Christians have said, and will continue to say, when he make totally asinine and stupid statements like the one you mention.