Is this a good deal?


Teraflex revolver shackles for toyota pickup
$179.95 shipped

http://www.windrockoffroad.com/PART/TER.RTOY-T/V/index.htm

is it a good product? price?
anyone have any experience with them on yotas?

thanks in advance

anyone? anything?

was curious because i saw them on extreme 4x4 about a week ago and they seemed to alow for a lot of flex with the added droop and flexability of the shackle itself

wondering if it was a good route to go, or if another would be better?

Every one I have known that have put them on the Toyotas have taken them off. A lot of Jeep people swear by them!!!! Go figure!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

that's what i was wondering <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

thanks for the reply <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

dont they unload serverely when you jam on you brakes??

If there's a way to lock them in place, for normal driving, that's be better. Otherwise, I could see all kinds of stability issues on the highway, including the before mentioned braking issue.

So, they give a little bit extra droop, but that's about it. Also seems like you're putting a hellofalot of leveraged stress on parts that might not survive it.

Also, seems like it might cause some major wheel hop issues.

Maybe they are better somehow with the Jeep's shorter wheelbase and more weight over the rear wheels. Also, the one's I've seen advertised for the Jeeps include locking pins to make them act like traditional shackles on the street.

I've got double shackles on my Chevy springs simply because it made mounting them easier. They've been there for 6 years or more and have NEVER caused any strange handling problems on or off road.

That said, they don't really do any good either <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
(tiny bit of extra droop I guess, but nothing that would help you make an obstacle you wouldn't normally be able to do).

So from pretty close to personal experience, I'd say those are just a waste. Your money is much better spent on quality springs and/or lockers. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for all the advice <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

I'll be staying away from them in that case

Have lockers <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />, springs could be better, i've been thinking about putting rears up front, not sure what to do about the back, was thinking about chevys

Here's a few new questions...if that's legal <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" /> I tried the search, but with no avail <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

When putting stock rears on the front:

1. Should you rebuild the pack adding in some newer springs? i had heard you should take out the overload, do you need to replace it with another spring?

2. How much lift from stock do they provide? (would need to match the 5" in the rear)

I've got an adjustable drag link so that won't be so much of a deal, my front driveline.......now that's another story

That brings up another questions (i'm really sorry in advance)

3. Has anyone used the front drive line kit that marlin and AP sell?

As for chevys on the rear:

4. What year/model/drive type chevy should the springs come from? (sorry if this is a stupid noob question <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />)

5. Looking at budbuilts site and kit he's got for mounting them i see that they need a wider perch, that being the case does someone make a u-bolt flip kit for this conversion or can one me made to work properly/safely?

Again, sorry for all the questions, and very sorry if they've been asked a million times over, i've had them in mind for a while now and i think the time spent thinking about what to do next, what i'd like to do, questions, etc. have actually been affecting my concentration on school work. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Sorry for the rant, now you can shoot them down or put them on my list.

I like them... I have a friend with a set on his Cherokee.. That rig has big flex.. Plus they let the spring twist kinda like the orbit eye spring..

Maybe find someone in your are that is running them and go for a ride with them.. see what you think!?!?!

Be Wild,
RAZZ

My rears up front writeup...

On the revolver shackles, it seems that the vehicle setups that do well with them are short WB (i.e. short springs like Jeeps and Sammys) with spring under axle. On the longer WB Toyotas, a longer set of springs that are flatter with the spring over axle setup, work better.