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3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. #746663 08/23/06 01:37 AM
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swamprunner Offline OP
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Has anyone done this swap? I have a 89 4runner with a bad 3.0(two cyl are bad) and another 87 4runner the body (whats left of it) is about to fall off and the frame is about to rust in half. The 22re in it is running strong though. I'm thinking about swapping the driveline (motor and tranny) from the 87 into the 89. How hard can it be? I know the wiring harness will have to be swapped and a couple other things under the hood. To all those have done this swap is there any hang ups I'm missing. There both sr5's with power windows and all the options so I'm hoping the harness swap will work just fine. Commets or suggestions on the swap would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: 3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. [Re: swamprunner] #746664 08/23/06 02:19 AM
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Paul_H Offline
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You have to balance time vs money.

Are the two cylinders bad on the top end or bottom end? I just did a head rebuild on my 3.0, and it's much less work than a motor swap.


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Re: 3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. [Re: swamprunner] #746665 08/23/06 04:12 AM
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bkg Offline
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wiring, dash, motor mounts, tranny mounts, driveshafts, tranny, tcase, center console, etc, etc, etc... Been discussed before. Part out the bad truck and rebuild the 3.0.


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Re: 3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. [Re: swamprunner] #746666 08/23/06 04:36 AM
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Brian894X4 Offline
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One of the hardest parts is going to be motor mounts. I don't think they will line up. Although the 22RE gives you two different positions. Apparently V-6 trucks have different mounts.

The wiring is not usually that different between 4 cylinder and V-6 trucks, but you're talking different years too, so it's hard to say.

I wonder if you could part out the bad truck and generate enough income to rebuilt the motor in the good truck?


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Re: 3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. [Re: Brian894X4] #746667 08/23/06 05:34 PM
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Red_Chili Offline
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It will be a whole lot less trouble, less time, and more rewarding to swap the 3.0 to a 3.4...


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Re: 3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. [Re: swamprunner] #746668 08/23/06 11:23 PM
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Snowtoy Offline
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The engine mounts have to be moved back a couple of inches, this will get the 4cyl tranny and t-case in the stock 3.0 location. A buddy of mine did this swap this past March when he built his new trail rig. It was more of a money saving issue, he had both engines and wanted to save money on the dual t-case set-up. The wiring wasn't that difficult, however since you have both Runners I would suggest swapping over the entire harness, it is a little more labor intensive but less frustrating than trying to rework the 3.0 harness.

The swap has worked well, but I am not sure it is for everyone, I would diagnos what is wrong with the 3.0 first before committing to a 22re swap.


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Re: 3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. [Re: Red_Chili] #746669 08/23/06 11:54 PM
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dcg9381 Offline
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I 2nd the 3.4L swap - or a 4.3L swap.
Sell off what you've got.
The 3.0L is a dog and an expensive one at that.


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Re: 3.0 to 22re swap...how involved is it. [Re: dcg9381] #746670 08/24/06 12:55 AM
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swamprunner Offline OP
Mudrunner
The 3.0 has 2 cyl that are bad on the lower end. The guy a bought it from rebuilt the head cause he thought it was the valves. Turns out that wasn't it and its in the lower end somewhere. So I don't feel rebuild the 3.0 is worth it. I have the 22re to swap in but after thinking about it and reading the posts it doesn't sound worth it to me. I already have two toyota's and they keep me plenty busy so I'm not looking for a 3rd. Anybody want to buy a project?


85 SR5 4runner....Too many hours of work put into it, Hacked, Beaten, and Still running after all I've put it through

87 Turbo Pickup...Bought Her for $500 put another $500 in her and she's running like a dream.

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