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Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. #750637 09/10/06 09:09 PM
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88SuperTrooper Offline OP
Mudrunner
Is the "Privacy Glass" on the 4 Back windows just a Tint film or Is it in the glass. I have Kind of a bronze or Very Light Smoke color. I want to match the tint to to all the other windows with the same color, but if i cant find it, Ill have to see what else is out there. Im almost sure that I can get a Professional to do it but I need to find out if it is the Glass First. Thanks Guys.


89'Isuzu Trooper LS 5 spd 2.6L
31" Big O X/T's
15x8 Eagle 058's
K&N Filter w/ Air Box Mod
2.25" DynoMax SuperTurbo
PolyUrathane/Indy4X Bushings
Suspension/ FrontEnd Tech/Hunter Certified Alignment Tech.
Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: 88SuperTrooper] #750638 09/10/06 09:29 PM
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onebadtrooper Offline
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Its not a film, its in the glass itself. hope that helps....
I found that out when someone smashed out all of my windows <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />


89 trooper, tera low t-case gears,5.38's, 3" indy4xsus lift3"body lift,safari snorkle,warn winch,custom bull bar,custom rock sliders,warn hubs,35x13.50r15,custom rear bumper trooper pics
Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: onebadtrooper] #750639 09/10/06 10:08 PM
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88SuperTrooper Offline OP
Mudrunner
Ok that is what I figured, So is there anyway to get the tint matched or if they were to put some dark film over the glass that is tinted would it it be too dark to see out of for the passengers? im looking to go dark enough like 12 to 15 % so that future criminals cant see what is in there..... so Ill do some calling around to see what it will take.


89'Isuzu Trooper LS 5 spd 2.6L
31" Big O X/T's
15x8 Eagle 058's
K&N Filter w/ Air Box Mod
2.25" DynoMax SuperTurbo
PolyUrathane/Indy4X Bushings
Suspension/ FrontEnd Tech/Hunter Certified Alignment Tech.
Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: 88SuperTrooper] #750640 09/10/06 10:21 PM
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onebadtrooper Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Yeah you can tint over it. I put in 5% and in day light you can see out of it no problem. It just looks like your wearing sunglasses when you look out.

here is mine with 5%, I did it myself. I got the tint from ebay for $45 shipped. It was pre cut to fit.

Sorry for big pictures

PIC 1

PIC2

Last edited by mlclark; 09/10/06 10:24 PM.
Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: onebadtrooper] #750641 09/13/06 06:44 PM
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ninety1troop Offline
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Finally a question I can answer with full confidence!! The tint on the back 8 windows (back doors + cargo area) is factory if; you can not see the edge of the film when you roll the rear door windows down or if you can't scrape the stuff off with a flat razor blade (and soapy water). Also, if it's aftermarket film, you should notice possible scratches or nicks, as this stuff is not indestructable. It's kind of like paint, take care of it and it will last a while, but anything metal or gritty will scratch it. If the windows have a shiny (reflective) and bronze look to it, it is most likely factory tint, which is made into the glass. More specifically, it is "stained" into the glass. Now here is the tricky part. It is just about impossible to match it both inside and out. I have used a layer (each) of two different shades (and colors) in attempts to match it. I have tried to match similar vehicles such as the Ford F150 Xtra cab, Nissan pathfinder and some ugly Lexus SUV, all with similar methods. The Ford and Lexus were the closer matches. It takes a light (%) metallized film first followed by a medium bronze film. There are several different types of film out there but two basic types: dyed and metallic as well as a blend they refer to as hybrid. When you see a vehicle with "mirror tint" it has a heavily metalized film on it, thus making it look reflective (like a mirror). The darker the percentage the more reflective it is. The trooper factory tint comes in a medium percentage of somewhere between 15%-20% (the lower the # the darker the tint). 20% only allows 20% of the sunlight that hits the window to pass through the window. Thus 5% ("limo tint") blocks out 95% of the given light hitting the window. In an attempt to match factory tint you want to find a metalized film (~50%) then follow it with a light-medium bronze (~35%). Combined it should equal something close to 15%-20%. Another thing to realize is that the two front doors (that appear to be clear) actually have a very light shade of bronze (very, very light) already in the glass. This is only on troops that have the factory tint already on the back section. I realized this when installing a salvage wing window from a factory-tinted rig onto my non-factory-tinted troop. So you already have a tiny amount of the bronze in the fronts. If you can find a shop that is willing to experiment with different shades and colors, it will look pretty good. It is quite rare however to match one "close" to perfect. Also there are some bronze-refelctive films out there that aren't too bad. But they turn out more bronz"ey" than anything thus not really matching. Sorry for such a long post. It's much easier to show a customer this then to explain in a forum. Hope it helps though. The link below should take you to some pics of my tint. My truck was clear from the factory. I added the graphics (Llumar Platinum Plus 18%) then followed by a layer of Llumar ATR 7%. Like OneBad said you can see out of the 5% very well during the daylight hours. Offroading at night in the woods is quite another story though. Cheers

JC

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/700076/6


Last edited by ninety1troop; 09/13/06 06:49 PM.

"Some people never go crazy" - Burkowski
1991 Trooper, indy4x 1.5 lift, flowmaster exhaust, 3.4 engine swap.
Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: ninety1troop] #750642 09/13/06 07:16 PM
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VOLTRON Offline
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you should check to see what the tint laws are in your state, if you do 2 layer's it will not pass inspection and you can be ticketed for it. Also, there are films out there that can match the factory tint pretty close. Every manufacturer has films that will match most all cars, different manu's for different cars. There isnt a manu out there that has one film that will match all factory tint on all cars. The darkest you can go that I know of is 35% on front doors but most states it is lighter then 35% like 50% and putting a layer of 70 and 35 will put you past the limit, plus it is going to cost twice as much


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Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: VOLTRON] #750643 09/13/06 09:44 PM
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Strider93 Offline
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Second to the above, Check your state and local laws! The cops have a hand held device that measures the tint of the glass, and if it exceeds it you get a 'fix it' ticket.

What I recommend is checking your state laws, then going to a professional and having the darkest % most reflective metalic tint installed you can legally have. The metalic tints last longer, are more resistant to scratches (but will still scratch), and most importantly reject the most amount of heat from the sun and keep the car cooler and the a/c working less hard. It appears that in Wyoming they allow you to go to any tint on the back and rear sides on an SUV, and 28% on the front windows. Check this link to look up your state laws:
State window tinting laws

Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: Strider93] #750644 09/14/06 12:01 AM
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88SuperTrooper Offline OP
Mudrunner
Well, here in wyoming the darkest YOU CAN GO is 10 to 12 % with some leeway in there and the cops have better things to do than give someone a Ticket for window tint. My buddie is a Cop so I get the Scoop on what is legal. Also in this wonderfull Inspection Free state, they dont test for smog or anything like that, which otherwise I would have Tickets out the wazoo from "mods" made that deal with emissions. shhhhhh dont tell. Other wise Im fine with going darker over top of the the bronze tint already on there. and going lighter on the front 2 windows.


89'Isuzu Trooper LS 5 spd 2.6L
31" Big O X/T's
15x8 Eagle 058's
K&N Filter w/ Air Box Mod
2.25" DynoMax SuperTurbo
PolyUrathane/Indy4X Bushings
Suspension/ FrontEnd Tech/Hunter Certified Alignment Tech.
Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: 88SuperTrooper] #750645 09/14/06 12:10 AM
Joined: Apr 2006
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88SuperTrooper Offline OP
Mudrunner
Well i just clicked your link there Strider and I stand Corrected. 28% on the fronts. BUT anything Prior to 1996. *AHEM* is still legal. Wether or not.... you have proof of it, it might slide under the door and go away. but Like I said the cops have better things to here than write Fix It Tickets.


89'Isuzu Trooper LS 5 spd 2.6L
31" Big O X/T's
15x8 Eagle 058's
K&N Filter w/ Air Box Mod
2.25" DynoMax SuperTurbo
PolyUrathane/Indy4X Bushings
Suspension/ FrontEnd Tech/Hunter Certified Alignment Tech.
Re: Tinted Glass on 89 Trooper. [Re: 88SuperTrooper] #750646 09/14/06 01:36 AM
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ninety1troop Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I suppose I should insert a responsible comment about the above mentioned. It's hard for me to think responsible on my lunch break when i replied earlier. Anyway, i neither encourage nor endorse any ideas of applying darker than legal window films to your vehicle, especially the two fronts. Admittedly a couple years ago, I stripped my tint and re-applied 15% because the other was too dark. i suppose you eventually outgrow it. Also, as a side note, some states are specific to the front limit either being a total (combined) percentage or the applied percentage. The difference being when you combine the aftermarket film percentage to the glass, the COMBINED percentage will be just a bit less. I.E. applying a 20% film to a factory (slightly tinted) glass would give a combined percentage of something like 18.5%. This is just an example. I know that here in KY the fronts are only allowed to be a COMBINED percentage of 35%. Some states also have a reflectivity law, saying that the reflective qualities (mirror tint) can only reach a certain limit, if any at all. And one last thing, some states still consider "excessive window tint" a secondary offense. This means they can only write you up if they pull you over for something else. Within the last few years, here in KY, they made both the seatbelt law and the "excessive tint" law primary offenses. Meaning they can now pull you over if they notice either one of them, here in KY that is.


"Some people never go crazy" - Burkowski
1991 Trooper, indy4x 1.5 lift, flowmaster exhaust, 3.4 engine swap.







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