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Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: bill_bly_ca] #761956 11/03/06 05:47 AM
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Ugg 49th parallel... Almost put most of us canucks in the Ozarks :-)


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88 Mits Pajero LWB 185000Km 2.5TD JDM import (SOLD)
Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: PHIL_] #761957 11/03/06 03:12 PM
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
Coming in on the other side. I received my blanking plate last week and will install it this weekend. I will let you know how it works out!

By the way, not revving your engine in the bush and tearing up the wilderness with your 4x4 will do far more for the environment than keeping the EGR valve. IMHO.


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Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: Bulletproof] #761958 11/04/06 04:16 PM
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Well, I decided I better get in there and see what's going on, not because there were any symptoms, but because I like to see if/how things work...

I moved a few hoses, and the EGR valve easily came off with four bolts. It had a nice coating of carbon, but opens and closes just fine. Its currently sitting in a container, and full of carb cleaner, since I had it out of there. Certainly was nice to work on something at the top of the engine compartment for a change...it will be reinstalled this morning.

Also did my third oil/filter change while I was in there... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Second run of Rotella full synthetic.


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Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: PHIL_] #761959 11/04/06 05:38 PM
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Also did my third oil/filter change while I was in there... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Second run of Rotella full synthetic.


Where did you get the synth Phil?? Rotella synth is as common as hens teeth out hear.. Next change is next week and I will run Dino 0W rotella if I can't find 10W Rotella synth.


97 Prado (LC 90 series) JDM import 2020 --- 2000 Galloper II SWB under offer from Korea
88 Mits Pajero LWB 185000Km 2.5TD JDM import (SOLD)
Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: bill_bly_ca] #761960 11/04/06 06:20 PM
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crappy tire. Regular stock out here in diesel land.


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Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: Bulletproof] #761961 11/05/06 12:12 AM
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Coming in on the other side. I received my blanking plate last week and will install it this weekend. I will let you know how it works out!

By the way, not revving your engine in the bush and tearing up the wilderness with your 4x4 will do far more for the environment than keeping the EGR valve. IMHO.
You are incorrect . A properly operating EGR has only positive effect on the enviroment and your engine .

Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: spannky] #761962 11/05/06 08:49 PM
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Spannky,

I've seen clean air tests done with both having and not having an EGR system (Ontario requires this test if living in certain areas of Ontario). I've seen non EGR engines put out less junk then some EGR equipped engines with perfectly running EGR systems. The most important thing about making sure that emissions are kept to a minimum is to make sure your engine is regularly maintained, and running at maximum efficiency. Reburning exhaust gasses starves the engine of oxygen, which in turn makes the burn less complete, which in turn raises emission levels. So if you aren't lazy, and do regular PM and keep an eye on your engine, an EGR is basically an anchor designed to let you feel good about yourself. The other thing you can do is switch to biodiesel which burns slightly hotter and cleaner then standard diesel. The trade off with biodiesel is you have to either find a place that sells it, or make it yourself. A small price to pay to for less green house gasses. (Sorry for the hijack guys)


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Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: Macka] #761963 11/06/06 01:33 AM
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I've seen clean air tests done with both having and not having an EGR system (Ontario requires this test if living in certain areas of Ontario). I've seen non EGR engines put out less junk then some EGR equipped engines with perfectly running EGR systems.


I guess my problem was the introduction of "environmentalism" as a dicussion here. It seemed selective. I don't mind talking about the environment and what we can do about it, but then that discussion needs to include every aspect of our lives, since every aspect of our lives impacts the environment. So, do the individuals who balked at blanking the EGR valve, also use low flush toilets, recycle all their paper, and only buy products from companies that don't use 3rd world countries to manufacture and pollute? Or was this a selective item they could rant about without making any real change in their lives?

Or is this environmentalism with a 4x4 angle? Do they then refuse to run their trucks across streams and rivers? I mention this because most vehicles are basically a toxic teabag of oil, diesel (or gas), brake fluid, tranny fluid, battery acid, antifreeze, and bearing grease. And there are a lot of environmental groups, and natural protection groups who would love to see an end to the invasion of the 4x4s and Quads in the bush. They are literally tearing it up and ruining it.

Now I don't care what you do, my personal impression is that the world is on a steep slide to hell anyway. I have come to terms with the fact that I drink bottled water, can't hunt where I used to (traditional archery - no training wheels), and have to wear sunscreen all the time.

And so, I am blanking my EGR valve. But didn't get it done this weekend, had to go get firewood (chainsaw, blue smoke, falling trees and dying squirrels for those who are interested).


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Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: Macka] #761964 11/06/06 04:31 AM
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All true but the EGR fills the cylanders with a enert gas that is not suppose to effect combustion either way. I should mention its only on part throttle . Emissions aside with lower EGT temps why remove it ? Unless mitsu's don't crack heads like other manufactures LOL . Why not invest in a propane kit for more power ? I for one know Phil could use it .

Just trying to stir the hornets nest up a bit

Re: Can someone explain the EGR system to me? [Re: Bulletproof] #761965 11/06/06 04:54 AM
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So, do the individuals who balked at blanking the EGR valve, also use low flush toilets, recycle all their paper, and only buy products from companies that don't use 3rd world countries to manufacture and pollute? Or was this a selective item they could rant about without making any real change in their lives?


I think you're taking my comment completely out of context. I stated that to remove a working EGR for no reason would increase NOx emissions, and thus increase the pollution produced by my truck and thus "I felt it would be" environmentally irresponsible. If the system is not working, that's a whole other issue.

I'm not sure how this could be seen as a rant. And I'm not sure what it has to do with low-flush toilets. For the record, I try to make my 4wheeling low-impact: I stay on designated trails, pack out more than I pack in, etc etc but IMHO this has absolutely nothing to do with our Exhaust Gas Recirc discussion, and I fail to see the relevance...


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