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 Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: DRTDEVL]
#762295
11/04/06 03:48 PM
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Joined: Jan 2002
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A VW diesel is good to 3000 rpm... It falls on it's face rapidly afterwards.
You should be fine with a W56 and 4.10:1 gearing... If you have 33" tires, you will be cruising 70 mph @ 2500 rpm in 5th gear. Is an 8-7/8" clutch up to the job of hooking up 33" tires through 4.10 gears? Seems like it would be a weak link. -- Matt
'89 4runner SR5, 3.0, auto (fun)
'93 xtra cab, dlx,3.0, 5spd (work truck)
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: Eck]
#762296
11/04/06 07:02 PM
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Joined: Jan 2002
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If anybody is up for the swap, I can get the much more powerful ARL motor (PD) with stock 150 hp and 250ft.lbs for roughly $ 2500.-. I'm dealing with Diesel parts from Germany to the US for some tuning companies and anybody that is interested in it.
With just chipping it, you're already in the 180hp range and lots more torque but how do you get it registered? This VW diesel swap has really piqued my interest but I am also having the frustration that comes with being low down on the learning curve. So, what exactly is "the much more powerful ARL motor (PD) with stock 150 hp and 250ft.lbs"? I am also wondering if the late model TDI electronic injected motors could be run with a Megasquirt aftermarket ECU thereby eliminating the troublesome (and expensive) VW electronics. How cool would it be to get all the technological advances incorporated into the later TDI motors without the electronic hassles! -- Matt
'89 4runner SR5, 3.0, auto (fun)
'93 xtra cab, dlx,3.0, 5spd (work truck)
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: matts]
#762297
11/04/06 08:35 PM
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Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 65
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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The ARL motor is used as the high performance Diesel engine in Germany and other parts of Europe. It's a really good base for tuning and overall reliability. You have to use the VW ECU. There's no other way around it. This engine is too complicated for any stand alone systems since they turbo is vacuum controlled with variable vane technology rather then a waste gate on the turbo. It has pumpe duese injectors which are also controlled by the ECU in terms of timing and injection quantity. A Diesel engine is a very different technology to work with. There is no butterfly to control rpm and power. This is completely done by the amount of Diesel injection. We don't have a situation where your engine can run lean. If it smokes you add air, if you have a lot of air and it doesn't slightly smoke under WOT, you add fuel. That's it. Nothing else matters, as long as your timing is correctly set. Check out www.tdiclub.com and look for the performance section. You'll find enough info about the engines etc. It's a very good forum.
92 Xcab V6 4x4 SR5 5sp., Detroit locker rear, lim. slip front, Warn hubs, H4's, electr. fan, eng. oil cooler, 1 lift, open cat.
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: Eck]
#762298
11/04/06 10:40 PM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 669
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Megasquirt injectors are still "batch" fired - meaning the banks are fired in groups. Diesels require a sequential injection, which megasquirt isn't capable of currently.
Look for it in the near future, however..
22REturbo.net 1988 4Runner 22RTE core, turbocharged, megasquirted...
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Re: VW diesel swap
#762299
01/18/07 07:06 PM
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Joined: Nov 2003
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Any progress? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />
91-22re(408xxxkm & counting with a rebuilt long block)- Flatbed/ Camper/33x10.5BFG-AT/Open 4:88/1.5"BJS/ +2"Shackles/Add-a-Leaf/AirLift/Dual-Batteries
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: allochris]
#762300
01/19/07 12:23 AM
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Joined: Mar 2001
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I have a dumb question. Has anyone looked into swapping a toyota diesel? While obviously parts would be a bit hard to come by in the states, would that hassle be worth the hassles *hopefully* avoided since the swap should be a bolt/plug in?
Frank
1994 4runner, 3.0, auto, 4.88's, 31's, BJ spacers, Coil spacers, air shocks, D-ring anchors, 4Crawler F/R swaybar discos. www.sdori.com
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: elripster]
#762301
01/19/07 12:42 AM
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Joined: Dec 1999
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I have a dumb question. Has anyone looked into swapping a toyota diesel? While obviously parts would be a bit hard to come by in the states, would that hassle be worth the hassles *hopefully* avoided since the swap should be a bolt/plug in?
Frank These guys are the best knowledge base on the Web I have found. They are some Toy diesel swapping fools. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/
John Smith 79 FJ40
87 StdCab w/22R TLCA# 9074
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: John Smith]
#762302
01/19/07 02:54 AM
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Joined: Mar 2001
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Roll Me Over
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That is a very cool site.
I haven't seen any discussion on importing engines with the engine ECU's (if that's possible). Of course you would probably still have to worry about mounts, etc... at least your stock radiator is more than up for the task.
Frank
1994 4runner, 3.0, auto, 4.88's, 31's, BJ spacers, Coil spacers, air shocks, D-ring anchors, 4Crawler F/R swaybar discos. www.sdori.com
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: elripster]
#762303
01/19/07 03:25 AM
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Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,191
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I'm stoked to hear about the results of the swap, I've been kicking around diesel ideas for a while (Yota, Benz, Volvo) and this seems to be the best option with the trans adapter etc already available. Time to start saving for a TDI and grease kit 
'87 4-Runner--DD/wheeler, 4.3 swap coming soon
'89 Supra--E85 powered 2jz NA-T Swap, 533rwhp 497ft-lbs
'89 Festiva, turboed BP swap powered by megasquirt
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Re: VW diesel swap
[Re: DRTDEVL]
#762304
01/19/07 05:21 AM
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 143
Wheeler
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A VW diesel is good to 3000 rpm... It falls on it's face rapidly afterwards.
You should be fine with a W56 and 4.10:1 gearing... If you have 33" tires, you will be cruising 70 mph @ 2500 rpm in 5th gear. From what my tech's tell me the power band in the TDI is solid from about 1500 to 4500 rpm... Also you can unlock a few HP by using this http://www.ross-tech.com/ we have a few customers that have used this and swear by it... Also alot of VW tech's use it as well...
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