Gonna have to get me a set of those.

I got the 2 engines tore down. Funny whoever did the bsek on this raider engine forgot to install a oil pump chain guide. Anyhow I scored the new timing componets, and the pickup tube n pan off it, and im just gonna send th rest to the scrapper.

I'm going to head over to my friends and cut the quest pickup tube, but I am having a brain fart on the length I need to extend the tube. Icould swear it was 1 inch, but I need to do a bit of reading. With any luck I may have the bottom end back together tonight, but probably ont. I have a feeling there is gonna be a lot of drinking ahead.

Test for proper clearance:

grab some kid's modelling clay and put a lump in the oil pan where the pickup goes on the raider motor/raider pickup and with a gasket on there, push the pan into place. Measure the clay pressed thickness.

install the starion pump/pickup and put new clay in the pan and reinstall the pan and measure thickness of the clay.

difference in measurements is the length of the add section...

IIRC, it's just under an inch, like 7/8" or so, but MEASURE IT...

Thanks for the reply. I cut a little over 1 inch ouf of the montero pickup tube to use, but I havent cut the starion tube yet. I'll do some measuring tomorrow and figure out ohw mch I need to go down.

I wish I had a 83 starion oil pump handy as they use the montero/truck style pickup tube.

The stock truck pump is the same unit as the the early Starion pump. I have the stock truck pump in my turbo motor and use the passage in the block.

The use the same size gears and in theory have the same output. The block pickup is a little restrictive. I have run it un modified without problems. On my current setup I drilled the block out and rounded the sharp internal corner thats mid block.

Where in Portland are you? I'm in NE on 22nd not too far from Killingsworth.

Kevin

I'm actually in scappoose. My friend and I were talking about it. He said the truck pump gears looked exactly the same. I'm pretty sure the montero pump is hosed though. Kevin I need to come check out your ride one of these days. Kyle said it's friggan sweet.

Well after a bunch of crappy welds grinding and some more welding my montero pickup tube is back to what it was before I hacked it up. bsek is in, oil pump mounted. Timing cover is going on shortly, and as soon as I put on a new rear main seal, the timing cover will go on and she will be ready to drop in. Before I do that I still need to wheel the thing back into the garage and drop the automatic trans and get the manual fitted.

Can you post some photos? I need to do this same thing later this year.
Thanks!

its too alte for the pickup[ tube, but its just the stock montero pickup tube with the montero pump and oil pump gasket.. I welded it back to stock after I cut it thinking I had to use the starion one. Sorry.

A few coors and some determination and the auto trans is out. I didnt even cut anything this time. The stock transfer case mount was shot. Forgot to take off the 4x4 shifter knob. WHOOPS lol. Anyhow, it's ready for the 5 speed insertion. That might happenthis week. I have a busy day of working on some other cars, so we will see. I'll upload some pics of the poor thing tomorrow.

So funny, I wanted the 5sp out and the auto in.. you're doing the opposite <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Don't run too much power and tall tires on that 5th gear!