Wow! 4 post and we have to read this? Have a good life as your time here is short lived.

That's to bad as you could have learn a few things as we have some very hard core Mitsubishi folks here.

Is this a friend of yours Ray?

Someone needs a hug...peace out <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

First of all, no need to get your undies in a bunch.

NOBODY is willing to pay $1900 for something as complex as an IFS suspension lift when it's still not proven especially when their life will be at stake. And one or two people having it does NOT make it a proven design.

The only way you'll convince someone to part with their $$$ is to illustrate why your design works enough that they believe it will. That's what we want to see. This is a VALID request being voiced by real potential customers to an essentially unknown vendor and an especially UNKNOWN fabricator.

With the way you've responded thus far, I shudder to think what kind of support we can expect to receive from you should we need it.

As for me (I'm the RAY who contacted you previously) coming up to see your design, first of all, you're not exactly just around the corner from me.

2nd of all, I'm busy, I've got other stuff going on that takes presidence over coming up to see your lift.

3rd and most important, I'm not at your beck and call so to respond the way you have wanting my help to somehow endorse your design so forum members here will be less hesitant to buying it...

I think at this point with your response, it's gonna have to get a lot colder before something freezes over so I can come up and visit you just to help you sell your product on here! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />

It is a shame this is going over this way.

Ray sorry all I said is you have my contact info but its cool don't sweat. I don't need you to endorse [censored] I thought you were cool my bad besides I am not trying to sell here I have other means besides I make more money from my soy candle business to all who doubt get a life and phuq

What can I tell you. I do sales for a living. You don't insult or demean potential customers just because they don't understand/believe in your design. You prove them wrong. If you can't, then you wait until you can. The last thing you do is insult them.

Then when other prospective customers ask to see proof that it works as advertised your response is come see it for yourself. I won't take pictures or a video to prove it's effectiveness... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Who in their right mind would spend that much without proof?

Monstero1975 needs to realize the burden of proof for the effectiveness of any product is on the seller, not the buyer. To become offended when someone questions him because they don't understand his design (even when they're not being civil) shows a lack of patience and business acumen IMHO.

Look if you wanna sell this to hard core off roader's (as he's noted) without showing that it works on the trails, then you SERIOUSLY need to do a total rethink of your business plan.

I was thinking maybe Ray was hoping he would have used a little more punctuation... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
As far as the lift goes, exactly what gears would someone need to run 38" tires with, and have decent performance? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

This clown again?

C'mon guys this is a very obvious fake...I mean look at the idler arm flapping in the breeze.. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Really? The drop bracket is bent in the first photo, was that you're solution for fixing the "Bugs" in the steering? Why is there no rear axle visible in any of the photos?

I thought this kit was ready to ship for 1800 bucks six months ago...What a joke...

Thank you Justice! I have a feeling that he snapped those shots before shipping the whole mess to the scrapyard. shame about the truck though. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Ok, well it doesn't have idlers anymore went power rack. It has support struts on back of drop down bracket they run parallel with torsions. the tires that are on it are 38 14.50 16 the true height is only 36 inches with 4.88 gears it is ok a little sluggish but locked in low 4 it does alright