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Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: LRJ4x4] #1015009 12/14/10 05:52 PM
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Hey John, there are really good bus drivers, too, think of Jancuski and Gilbreath. And you get a lot of ?pilot from me.

Re the rear plug, I've had installs where I had to take the rocker arm assembly all the way off to seat the cup right, and you have to put a smear of rtv on the upper/lower rear and front bearing cap mating surfaces where there's no gasket seal. I've seen leaks there so bad the loss of oil pressure killed the cam bearings.


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Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: fasteddy] #1015010 12/14/10 08:55 PM
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The Fel-Pro head gasket set includes two different plugs, as there must be two different style of head, or at least two sizes for that bore. One uses the rubber cup with a metal flange and the other is basically a rubber plug. I have received one of each from Clearwater over the years.

John B.


'87 Raider 2.6 Turbo Auto, Under Construction
'95 Montero SR, 35x12.5/15 BFG M/T KM-2's, Rock sliders, Qtr panel chop, gas tank lift, 2" BL, Aisins, 5.29s
'95 Pajero Mini
'98 Montero Winter Ed.
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Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: JohnnyBfromPeoria] #1015011 12/14/10 10:44 PM
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There is a rubber doughnut seal for the fwd version of the 2.6, and the cam had an extension for a sprocket that drove an air pump or something like that. I've both used the doughnut and cut off the cam extension to use a fwd cam in a rwd motor.


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Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: fasteddy] #1015012 12/15/10 06:14 AM
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300D50 Offline
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Eeeep! Before my oil pump spontaneously died on reassembly(wouldn't prime at all...), the idle oil pressure was in the re drange... Still is sometimes... I was told all 2.6's do that...

Am I screwdrivered? No ill effects that I can see right now...


1989 Dodge Power Ram 50 w/ no engine <- rotten frame <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
1988 Power Ram 50 2.6 Long Bed
1990 Mitsubishi MightyMax V6, swapping to the Daimler-Benz OM617 3.0L I5 diesel
Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: 300D50] #1015013 12/16/10 03:49 AM
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I'm with Eddy and John on this. I've R&R'ed at least a half dozen Clearwater heads on Monteros and they don't come with plugs installed. I'm betting the mechanic put it in dry to test fit and then never went back to re-seat it with RTV.

-Pmontero


'87 Montero Diesel
'98 Porsche Boxster Electric
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Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: Rayman] #1015014 12/16/10 05:37 AM
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haztoys Offline
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Hi All .. Hope your all doing good ..

Sorry on the DOA on the motor .. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />..

Before I say anything could you tell me .. Did the plug have "blue goo" (RTV) on it ..?

Have a good day

David

Hazardous Toys inc

Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: haztoys] #1015015 12/16/10 05:49 AM
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Kevin C Offline
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Before I say anything could you tell me .. Did the plug have "blue goo" (RTV) on it ..?


The set up question for.......

1: How blue RTV is destroying motors by letting parts slide out.
2: How using blue RTV would have saved your motor.


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: Kevin C] #1015016 12/16/10 06:18 AM
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haztoys Offline
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Before I say anything could you tell me .. Did the plug have "blue goo" (RTV) on it ..?


The set up question for.......

1: How blue RTV is destroying motors by letting parts slide out.
2: How using blue RTV would have saved your motor.


Was trying to be funny on the "blue goo" statement old joke .. Sorry..Just a name for all RTV I use ..

The plug is rubber any RTV could and does get a rubber seal or rubber plug to slide out at times ...I "me" never put RTV on the rubber plug ...I do put RTV on the cam cap to the head on the crack ... But not on the rubber plug ..

I've done a mess of 2.6 motors ..Put the plug in "backwords" and make sure its not hitting the back of cam and the sucked will never come out .. LOL... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />..Thats worked for years and 100's of motor for me ..

To each there own ..Do what works for you ..

Once more...Sorry on the plug coming out and killing your motor ..Sorry to say your not the only one thats happen to .. You have to really make sure that plugs in there good ..

To bad your not near AZ theres some good running motors around the northern highlands of AZ..

Have a good day

David

Hazardous Toys inc

Re: Disaster, total failure of a Clearwater head. [Re: haztoys] #1015017 12/19/10 09:30 AM
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Kevin C Offline
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Was trying to be funny on the "blue goo" statement old joke .. Sorry..Just a name for all RTV I use ..


I remember calling the blue RTV the same thing. Gorilla snot was another favorite name, yellow and sticky.

As far as smell goes, if I remember the blue RTV was an acetoxy cure with a nasty acetic acid smell. If you use it on electrical components you may be in for a surprise.


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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